honda integra dc2 vti-r vs type r

First things first dude - call up a few insurance places and pretend you're about to buy a VTIR or a Type R - print off the specs of one of them and see how much insurance is. Ring around, but being a fresh P Plater will guaruntee you'll be paying through the nose - a $12000 car sounds good, but if you have to pay $3000 to get it insured (and you're going to want to do that comprehensivly if you're modding it) then you'd be surprised what you'll find.

There's an insurance thread - search.

Also, as someone mentioned, i'm pretty sure Type R's can't be driven by P Platers - the kW rating is, funnily enough, right on the cut-off by like 2 kW's or something. Fact: if a cop sees you, decides you're a 50-cent listening punk kid from dandenong with his seat so far back you can't see over the dash - chances are s/he's going to make sure you won't be legally allowed to drive the car. No point saving up all this money and having to sell the car a month later. Means you have more paperwork to fill out, more hunting through ads, more placing ads, stamp duty, rego, insurance etc etc.

If its your first car, buy something shit and cheap so you get the feeling of the road - how people drive, react, etc. Even if its just for 3 months. The last thing you want to do is feel invincible and end up on the news.

Go the VTIR, cause... at least you'll be able to drive it.

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Originally Posted by Xenon

How much is the price difference between a VTIR and a TypeR anyway?
With all the modifications needed in terms of power and handling to get it to match or slightly beat a type R, wouldnt you be better off just getting the type R instead??

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around 10 grand, a bit more or less depending on age, condition etc...

if you were planning to leave the type-r stock it's great, but why spoil such a nice compromise? you'd have just spent a fair whack of moolah for better seats, brakes, transmission motor, suspension- no point doing that if you're planning on replacing all that stuff later.

it'd cost maybe 4 grand to get the vti-r to approximately the same pace as a type-r, though it'd still be an inferior vehicle... but the minute you start looking into serious mods, it's another pot of satay my friend.

hey ginganggooly, can u name some of those mods included in your 4grand to get vtir up with the itr?...

ta man...
maybe out line approx price and power?! that would be o so lovly.

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Originally Posted by fabz

Hey am looking to buy an integra in the next few months and was just wondering what the difference is between the type r and vti-r models. shape, engine, interior, price, insurance.

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Hope this webpage helps.
http://www.dohc-vtec.com.au/pages/li...udm-vs-jdm.htm:thumbsup:

Fabz!!! Two words and one letter: GO THE R

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Originally Posted by kousoku

hey ginganggooly, can u name some of those mods included in your 4grand to get vtir up with the itr?...

ta man...
maybe out line approx price and power?! that would be o so lovly.

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i'd start with the suspension becuase thats where it is most lacking. 240 odd for a rear swaybar and tie-bar combo, 800 on shocks, 300 on springs, 20 bucks on a castor kit and 120 on a wheel allignment (not the bob jane style one mind you). maybe make yourself some bracing for the rear too. you wouldn't believe the difference that makes to the car... make a cold air intake by butchering up your existing airbox for maybe 5, another 1500 on the exhaust and the rest on a hondata or proecu.

i know from driving the two cars back to back, that the suspension will feel more firmly suspended and tied down than a stock type-r. my one put out 108.6kw at mt druitt dyno, which i think is marginally more than a stock type-r makes there (maybe someone can confirm that for me). as i said, it's still not as "good" as a type-r, but the turn in will feel a bit more precise and it will have less bodyroll, the trade off is that it will have a stiffer ride, so don't expect the same comfortable ride you get in a type-r *chuckle*.
the exhaust will make it noisy too... but i like the noise. thems the breaks i guess :)

and before someone starts harping on about doing the same stuff to a type-r, don't forget about the law of diminishing returns. :o

After reading all of this i was too thinking VTi-R or Type R....I've made up my mind....I'm going for the TYPE R :D

I'm glad im 27 coz insurance for me with NRMA was $1887 but with AAMI it was $805.00....what a bloody difference!:confused:

Vtec Doesnt kick in when engine is cold i was under the impression that the oil had to be certain temp and engine etc...

or am i wrong

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Insurance would be my main drawback....i had my p's for six months i wanted a type R but i couldnt afford the insurance every year
so i got the Vtir still a great car....when im 25 :P maybe

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Originally Posted by lerroy

Vtec Doesnt kick in when engine is cold i was under the impression that the oil had to be certain temp and engine etc...

or am i wrong

And the post
Insurance would be my main drawback....i had my p's for six months i wanted a type R but i couldnt afford the insurance every year
so i got the Vtir still a great car....when im 25 :P maybe

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yeah man...AAMI will not let anyone under 25 drive the car at all....if u want a Type R i would wait until u r 25 or older. ;)

Isurance can be a prick

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Originally Posted by BoneZee®

yeah man...AAMI will not let anyone under 25 drive the car at all....if u want a Type R i would wait until u r 25 or older. ;)

Isurance can be a prick

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Not much longer to wait now almost 25 :) hehe

thats a good price diff Might have to get a few quotes my insurance is coming up again soon

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Originally Posted by BoneZee®

yeah man...AAMI will not let anyone under 25 drive the car at all....if u want a Type R i would wait until u r 25 or older. ;)

Isurance can be a prick

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Yeah Well the pricks at AAMI wont let any one under 25 drive a gsi Fvcken dogs just cause its a 2 door :mad:

One important thing i haven't heard yet about Vtir or Type R is that Vtir comes with sunroof while the Type R only got a sunroof option in the 2000+ model, so if u think sunroofs are as important as they are to me, i'd go for the Vtir if i was gonna buy a 98-99 model Integra.

I was tossing between the two aswell before i bought one, but the sunroof option sold me!!!!