[Euro] Rolling Euro Guards

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10-10-2005, 11:28 PM
yfin

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Originally Posted by Ferrarista

Ive droped my car 2' at the back and running on 8' wide tyres, do i need a camber kit? I wouldnt have a clue on these things

lol - we need to get this thread back on track - moving off topic (my fault too!)
10-10-2005, 11:30 PM
tknova

I'm pretty sure the fulcrum kit is around $300 odd. Direct from fulcrum. Too get it installed should be around the $200 mark (Pedders, ect. Or you can do it yourself) & a good wheel alignment from $70 - $130 (True Track)
10-10-2005, 11:31 PM
TwEigh

btw tknova- how do u lower your car?
custom spring? change shock?

and how much do u drop ur car?
10-10-2005, 11:35 PM
tknova

Well, i'm running origanil struts but different & softer bump stops & custom springs. And i think i dropped it 3 & 1/2 inches. Maybe more?

And it's still a very nice ride! Car never bottoms out. Senpsion centre who lowerded it said "Honda make one of the best suspension setups"

But, My Honda dealership said to me "Honda spend millions of dollars in designing this suspenion setup & you go and slam it" But, nother the less they still loved it :)
11-10-2005, 12:11 AM
Chris_F

woah tknova... i dont think those stock shocks are gona last too long with such an agressive drop.

i think at the end of the day coilovers are always the way to go for the perfect drop.
11-10-2005, 04:41 AM
joey_kev

a friend of mine fitted 19x8.5 front and 19x9 rear without rolling (just chamber a little)
11-10-2005, 10:31 AM
Atjo

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Originally Posted by Ferrarista

When i first seen pictures of his car, i also raised this 'legal' issue. I, too, feel very strongly about this. He didnt seem to care because apparently 'cops dont check' then i reminded him it was the insurance company you should be more worried about.

Each to their own i guess, you wouldnt do what i did, i wouldnt do what you did, but atleast we both wouldnt do what he did :D :D

I know that some of don't agree with i did. Previously, the springs & wheels was used on my friend's euro and when the springs & wheels fitted at my car i don't know why it's much lower than my friend's car. You can see from the picture. That's why i need to roll the guard (It's not fully rolled, only a little bit) even the front guard cause it's 19x8.5. I don't have to roll the guard if 7.5 or 8. The camber is temporary only cause i'm planning to put bodykit and make it widebody so i don't need to camber anymore.

I know it's not legal and most of my friends who modify their euro are not legal as well. For the insurance point of view, it will not become a problem if someone crash into my car, am i right? Because before the wheels fitted at my car, my friend had an accident and he didn't have any problem with the insurance. The only thing he did just change the wheels into stock wheels. I know what i'm doing and the place where i did the fitting has been involved in modification for autosalon.
11-10-2005, 10:39 PM
euro77

Quote:

Originally Posted by tknova

I'd love to run -1 at the rear but i can't.

The fulcrum kit only allows -2 or +2 camber ajustment.

So at a stock -4.5 camber i can only get a maxium ajustment of -2 so i get a camber reading now of -2.5

And if the camber was running any more positive at the rear i think i would probaly get some guard scrapping issues.

Get the ingal camber kit. I've got them installed and I can set the camber to 0 degree easily :D

But then again, in your case it would scrape the guard, besides, you were saying the wear was pretty even, so I guess it'll be alright.
26-10-2005, 09:10 PM
Sulley

would running 245/40/18 on 18x8 +49 rims on stock suspension pose a problem?
im planning to get it lowered on coilovers next year...not sure how low yet.
but i'll get the rims and tyres on first..
so its 245/40/18 on stock suspension alright?
27-10-2005, 11:21 PM
euro77

shouldn't be a problem. As far as I can remember, anything over +43 is fine.
27-10-2005, 11:35 PM
yfin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sulley

would running 245/40/18 on 18x8 +49 rims on stock suspension pose a problem?
im planning to get it lowered on coilovers next year...not sure how low yet.
but i'll get the rims and tyres on first..
so its 245/40/18 on stock suspension alright?

By comparison I have 235/45 on 17x7.5 +48. With that set up I am flush with the front guard. My car would be illegal if I went any wider as the shoulder of the tyres would protrude past the body (not by much - maybe 1cm) when the wheel is pointing straight ahead. So if you are pulled over by the cops they can defect you for this - not worth the trouble IMO. Even at some angles the 235 tyres look like they protrude (depends on tyre pressure how much they balloon).

Anyway, your setup would protrude 1.5cm further than mine as offset is almost exactly the same. I think that is too wide - especially if you plan to lower the car.

235 tyres are also plenty wide enough for a car the size, weight and power of the Euro. Traction is just not an issue if you get decent enough tyres.
28-10-2005, 12:11 AM
Dominik

Also remember that wider wheels etc can be inspected by an engineer who can issue an engineering certificate for them. The only thing is that they cannot engineer offset changes more than 12mm.

I ran 3.5 degrees neg camber on my 5th gen for 12,000kms with [no visible tyre wear; but i didnt treat it like a race car. I tend to baby my car around corners cos passengers dont like wacking their heads against the side window

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