1994 Civic VTi vs 1990 Corolla SX 20v

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01-06-2005, 01:26 PM
aaronng

Anyone has a vid of the 11k rpm redline of the worked 20v?
01-06-2005, 01:30 PM
spoondc2

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Originally Posted by SPEEDCORE

There is nothing wrong with 16V 4A-GE..... my whole debate behind the two is look at an EG from 94 then look at a corolla from 90. Most corollas from that age have had a pretty hard life and it usually shows in the body work.

spoondc2 "So which one are more cost effective?
Cheap corolla SX + 20V BT or cheap EK4 + engine work?"

Cost effective will be corolla with 20V..... if I was going the 20V in a corolla, I would try to source a AE82 "Twinky" as opposed to a AE92. "Twinky" in Australia originally came with a 88kw 4A-GE.... very good for its time for a 1.6 in the mid 80's.

The AE92 SX and GTi all had the 4A-GE Redtop which was 100kw (claimed). They are a very strong motor and will put up with a fair bit of abuse..... just look out for the usual tell tail signs of some young dickhead having owned it with the engine being bit tired and the gearbox well worn due to misuse and no regular servicing. Bodies on these corollas (AE82 and AE92) are getting quite long in the tooth also.

Hmm..... Sorry i don't really understand, so you mean to get a AE82 SX and put a AE92 engine on? or the way around?

You really make me interested :rolleyes:
01-06-2005, 01:35 PM
SPEEDCORE

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Originally Posted by Stroza

After some mods the car really starts to boggy.. aftermarket ecu, full exhaust, internal work and hello "Is that tacho reading 11k???" i know ive finished building a worked silvertop 20v. 0.5mm oversized piston's, newrings, new bottom end bearings, shoot-pinned and linished crank, metal head gasket, 320duration inlet cam 272degree exhaust side, custom adjustable cam gears that with inconjunction with VVT, heads been reshimmed, valves re-clipped, mild port n polish head and would be all tuned by a microtech computer...

Tell me more about the custom adjustable cam gear..... that still incorporates VVT! I've never heard of such a thing and have only ever seen your regular aftermarket cam gears for the 20V that end up losing the VVT.

11k rpm seems a bit optimistic with that setup..... where you even seeing power over 8800?
01-06-2005, 01:38 PM
SPEEDCORE

Quote:

Originally Posted by spoondc2

Hmm..... Sorry i don't really understand, so you mean to get a AE82 SX and put a AE92 engine on? or the way around?

You really make me interested :rolleyes:

No such thing as a AE82 SX.... there was a AE92 SX. I was saying that if I was going for a FWD corolla with a 20V... I would try to source a AE82 "Twincam" aka "Twinky" over a AE92.

And by the way.... forget about it.... stick to your clio.... you will regret doing up an old car.
01-06-2005, 01:46 PM
spoondc2

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Originally Posted by SPEEDCORE

No such thing as a AE82 SX.... there was a AE92 SX. I was saying that if I was going for a FWD corolla with a 20V... I would try to source a AE82 "Twincam" aka "Twinky" over a AE92.

And by the way.... forget about it.... stick to your clio.... you will regret doing up an old car.

Oh i see... but isn't the AE92 have more power? What's the pros of the AE82 ?

And you are right, i am still fighting with myself for this
01-06-2005, 02:25 PM
Hondavirgin

AE82 will be a lot lighter i'd imagine for one thing.

But if you've got a Clio, why you thinking of switching to a similar but older car?
01-06-2005, 02:31 PM
spoondc2

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Originally Posted by Hondavirgin

AE82 will be a lot lighter i'd imagine for one thing.

But if you've got a Clio, why you thinking of switching to a similar but older car?

AE82 engine is lighter you mean?

Yeah I am switching car but since i have 2 cars so i am switching both
01-06-2005, 02:56 PM
aaronng

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Originally Posted by SPEEDCORE

Tell me more about the custom adjustable cam gear..... that still incorporates VVT! I've never heard of such a thing and have only ever seen your regular aftermarket cam gears for the 20V that end up losing the VVT.

11k rpm seems a bit optimistic with that setup..... where you even seeing power over 8800?

From what I know about the 20V, with 320º intake you're seeing no power below 6000rpm and everything above. You should be looking at around 240hp flywheel if you can spin it to 11k rpm.
01-06-2005, 04:10 PM
spoondc2

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Originally Posted by aaronng

From what I know about the 20V, with 320º intake you're seeing no power below 6000rpm and everything above. You should be looking at around 240hp flywheel if you can spin it to 11k rpm.

Takumi's AE86 !?!
240ps on engine
Group A spec
Rev to 11000rpm......
01-06-2005, 04:54 PM
SPEEDCORE

You guys make it sound like a 20V can be tuned easily to the same specs of a Formula Atlantic.... :rolleyes:

So who wants to start actually building a Formula Atlantic 20V.... or even the old 16V Formula Atlantic?

Back about 4 years ago it was $5k just for the crank :o
01-06-2005, 04:58 PM
spoondc2

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Originally Posted by SPEEDCORE

You guys make it sound like a 20V can be tuned easily to the same specs of a Formula Atlantic.... :rolleyes:

So who wants to start actually building a Formula Atlantic 20V.... or even the old 16V Formula Atlantic?

Back about 4 years ago it was $5k just for the crank :o

Hahah i am not interested on that, someone did it in hk before and the engine end up rebuilding after each race. Yeah it does produce big power but people use have b16 could get similar power without doing much rebuilding work

I just want something for daily drive and don't want it to be too slow
01-06-2005, 05:58 PM
rakfint

Is it just me or has this thread gone slightly off topic? haha

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