Honda is more than aware of the fault. It is common. Their engineers are working with Bridgestone for a fix. It is all to do with the fixed camber it has been suggested.
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Honda is more than aware of the fault. It is common. Their engineers are working with Bridgestone for a fix. It is all to do with the fixed camber it has been suggested.
I originally had the 16" rims with Dunlop tyres and absolutely no drifting left or right.Steering was beautiful.After several thousand K's i put on a set of Honda 17" '05 Lux rims and Bridgestone Potenza tyres, i immediately noticed car drifted right,and a slight tendency to tramtrack.That raises a lot of questions about the effect of rim width,rim diameter,tyres and possibly wheel alignment settings mabye needing to be different for the bigger rims.You would think if Honda were taking the problem seriously they would have a resolution by now.Dealership told me about this issue back in January.I think they are just hoping everyone with the problem will get up enough mileage so that they can claim its an alignment problem caused by kerbing or hitting potholes,thus passing the responsibility onto the consumer.In the past if a problem was a design fault, the Japs would fix the design in the next model of the vehicle,and the dealerships would be left to try and pacify the irate customers anyway they could.Whats a worry here is that this problem seems to have been around since the first model 3 years ago and is still happening even in the '06 models.
It would be interesting to also know if anyone has fitted non-directional tyres onto the 17" rims,and if they are still having the drifting issue.That might clear up one possibility at least.
Very interesting point to raise. I switched to non directional Dunlop 3000As and the car tracks much straighter and the drift to the left is minimal (different to a pull to the left which is not normal) - but I thought it was the change in suspension, the strut brace, and the alignment which was done at roughly the same time.Quote:
Originally Posted by avid
It could well be the tires, but I wouldnt have thought that would be the issue.
I also note people talk about alignment here - but dont forget to get your wheels balanced at the same time. The way the tyre is balanced and mounted can impact the way the car tracks.
Has anyone with this problem on 17s tried to dial in the alignment settings for the TSX? Would be interesting to see how the car tracks with those settings - given that car comes with 17s standard. The settings are definately different (I need to go at the moment - someone else will have the numbers).
The shops I have had alignment done only had one alignment setting for the Euro - I was expecting the models with 17s and the revised suspension on the 05 lux would have different settings to the 16s. Perhaps that has been updated now.
my car seemed to do this less with the advan sports than it did with the goodyear eagle f1's... i think because the tred is less directional (if that makes sense) - ie tread pattern is different
Did your dealer say that the Bridgestone tyres are part of the problem? I had drifting to the left with the OEM Dunlops too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Woogler
The dealer thinks it is the fixed camber because on paper the car should drift right. Honda are suggesting it is the tyres.
This could go on for ages!!!! Bridgestone apparently are not accepting responsibility, I was told.
I think it is obviously the non adjustable camber.
If it is about camber.... there is a TSB in the US for the TSX where they fix the right rear camber. I wonder if it applies to us in this case.
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I havnt been right back through all the US TSX forums,but there doesnt seem to be as much mention of this problem in those forums.Is that right?Can any of you longer term members confirm that?
I'm taking my car into a Fulcrum shop with a very hi-tech Alignment machine soon.It will be interesting to see if the rear camber is correct.I suspect the toe in on my right rear is set too high,as i noticed the old 16" tyre from there was starting to scuff the outer edge.
Interesting... my car also drifts ever so slightly on the right although it is quite hard to tell as there are very few roads that are level.
Also on Bridgestone Potenza 17".
Does anyone know of a really good place to have a wheel alignment checked in Perth?
I can confirm that my euro lux 03 auto drifts slightly to the left. I did see in the service history that last service wheel alinment was done.
ben
The laser alignment can tell Honda immediately whether your car is within spec re the camber at the rear. If it is out of spec then what Aarong has suggested re the control arm is worth exploring - but not if the car is within alignment specification. Otherwise 100% of all Euros would have this issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Woogler
I really think you are being dicked around here. Tell your dealer that I raised the same drift issue more than 2 years ago with Honda - before Honda even sold the Euro with the Bridgestones you have.
Does anyone know where I can get a laser alignment in Perth?
And does tyre rotation mean you have to redo your alignment?