[Euro] Hard Starting Problem

What do you mean by turn off!?


When cold, it takes me just 1 turn of the key, but you can hear the starter motor turn 4 times before the engine starts. (In comparison, 94' Accord takes 1 crank! Yes, an 11 year old car starts quicker)

When warm and I didn't let it idle for 3-5 seconds before turning off, it might not start with 1 turn of the key but might need 2. If it does start with 1 turn, then it'll take about 4 cranks but then the rev stays at 300-500rpm or so and struggles to get up to idle rpm. After that it is fine. I think this is because of wet plugs.

If I had previously let it idle for 5 seconds, then it starts with 1 turn of the key, 4 cranks.

I think the Euro takes longer to start because of the long stroke length.

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Originally Posted by aaronng

What do you mean by turn off!?


When cold, it takes me just 1 turn of the key, but you can hear the starter motor turn 4 times before the engine starts. (In comparison, 94' Accord takes 1 crank! Yes, an 11 year old car starts quicker)

When warm and I didn't let it idle for 3-5 seconds before turning off, it might not start with 1 turn of the key but might need 2. If it does start with 1 turn, then it'll take about 4 cranks but then the rev stays at 300-500rpm or so and struggles to get up to idle rpm. After that it is fine. I think this is because of wet plugs.

If I had previously let it idle for 5 seconds, then it starts with 1 turn of the key, 4 cranks.

I think the Euro takes longer to start because of the long stroke length.

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Basically it starts to crank then dies and turns off

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Originally Posted by Ferrarista

Basically it starts to crank then dies and turns off

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Damn.. that doesn't sound good. I hope that it is reproducible so that you can show the dealer your problem.

With mine, it will crank and keep on cranking as long as I hold the key.

Edit: Or do you mean you crank it and it starts. You let go of the key and then the revs start to drop and then the engine dies? If it is this, then it has happened to me, when I don't let the engine idle before shutting it.

I've just experienced it lately too. It only happened once, but it NEARLY died... the rpm went really low for 1-2 sec... then it went back normally...
Can't blame Canberra's weather... its warm enough now!

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Originally Posted by aaronng

Damn.. that doesn't sound good. I hope that it is reproducible so that you can show the dealer your problem.

With mine, it will crank and keep on cranking as long as I hold the key.

Edit: Or do you mean you crank it and it starts. You let go of the key and then the revs start to drop and then the engine dies? If it is this, then it has happened to me, when I don't let the engine idle before shutting it.

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No, you do a full lock of the key and it starts to crank and after a few times just shuts off and dies.

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Originally Posted by Ferrarista

No, you do a full lock of the key and it starts to crank and after a few times just shuts off and dies.

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Okok, then it's better to get your dealer to check it out as it is not normal. Good luck! I hope you can reproduce it on the spot for the dealer to see.

Hey Guys!

I have the same problem - the car is still only within its first 2000Kms, but sometimes when the car is still slightly warm, say I have left car for around 15 minutes and came back - it takes a few more cranks than usual (around 3-4) to start it up, and when it does that (not regularly but enough that I notice it) it feels like the car wants to die.



I THINK this is a very big, recurrent problem with the Euro accords.



But by the sounds of it, that it happens only when warm, etc,. it might be Fuel Vapour Lock which prevents car from starting easily.



Ferratista - if your problem is still ongoing even after battery is fully charged, may be we could do a group effort/complain and help get your car fixed! Personally this is the only thing that I am not overly happy about my new car.

this doesnt sound too good, sounds like more than just a few members with problems now :(

hope it doesnt tarnish the euros record

New update. I have checked the idle speed after I stop the car from driving. And it's about 900rpm! Wait 3 seconds, then it goes down to 800 and a little more down to 750rpm. So you might need more than 5 seconds of idling before turning your engine off to prevent this difficulty in starting. I've tried just 2 seconds, and I had the same problem starting as Omotesando described.

what a crap, car worth 42-44 k, needs this way to turn off and startup. just cant believe. sounds like honda is in too much hurry to release new cars. honda must fix this problem otherwise its gonna be tough regain market once it lost for honda.

It's due to emissions requirements. You can't release unburnt hydrocarbons into the air anymore. Hence the revs maintaining above idle to burn the remaining fuel instead of releasing it out the exhaust. If you did shut it off before the fuel was burnt, I'm sure there is a design element to prevent that fuel from being released and keeping it in the cylinder volume instead.

Had this problem today. Car has just had 1k service. It's no big deal, just had to crank it again.