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if you ahve the dizzy all the way to one side and still cant get the mark right, I hate to say it you may still have the wrong valve timming. shoudlnt be like that. wheather you use the short connector or not, only thing is if you tried to set the timming with a cold engine.
problemo solved!!!
was still out a tooth, i took it apart and did the whole process again..
the belt was originally two teeth out, last time i moved it over 1 tooth and it still pinged and the dizzy had to be completely retarded, this time i moved it over 1 tooth again and and the dizzy is neither retarded or advanced, sits perfectly..
bloody dodgy mechanic originally installed my belt 2 teeth out, not good!!
im glad i was able to fix it though, i learnt alot off doing it also :thumbsup:
thats good to hear.
Im glad you where able to diagnose and fix it, great work
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Originally Posted by ECU-MAN
thanks guys :)
I'm diging out this thread (because its a good one!).Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul1985
Just wanted to ask you Paul, so when you said the belt was out 2 teeth......was this on the cam pulley that you adjusted it? Did you just slide the belt off and slide it back on the correct way?
thats how I do it wyn, just back of the tentioner, pull it off the cam pully and move the cam pully and put the belt on corectly. then make sure you have correct belt tention and timming after about 3 compleate crank revolutions.
ECU-MAN has it spot on.. once u loosen that tensioner and u turn the engine over a little it comes loose and u can twist the belt over a tooth..
See this pic below.. where the two arrows are pointing too.. obviously when mine was at TDC, the marks werent lined up. The belt couldnt seem to line up absolutely perfect even after we had moved it over a tooth. For some reason it looked as though it was half a tooth out (whether possible or not i dont know).. if we moved it over another tooth it seemed to be out half a tooth the other side of this mark?!?
So what happened was we moved it over one tooth, hoping it would fix the problem.. My car still pinged and i still had the dizzy completely retarded(or advanced?! i get the 2 mixed up.. lol) we couldnt set it up perfect therefor we realised it still had a problem. We pulled it back down and moved it over another tooth (it appeared to be half a tooth out again, but on the other side) what i mean by this is.. with the pic below, although my car was at TDC and the belt was now perfect.. where the arrows point below, they still didnt line up perfect.
I think its most likely because of human error, we must not have had the engine at that exact perfect spot on TDC if u know what i mean.. it was at that rocking stage.. the mark that the pulley should be lined up to could not be in the perfect spot also, im not sure if this is a common problem.. who knows, we eventually got it fixed though :)
I hope all that im saying is correct and makes some sort of sense! Im not the greatest at explaining things
Also, be careful of this if anyone is going through a similar process!! it was such a pain having to go through the process twice, lol
http://www.ozhonda.com/gallery/water.../3SOHC_TDC.JPG
How do you guys check the tension?
the push test,
on the left side ( not the water pump and tentioner side ) of the belt
you want about 5 to 10mm deflection
thats right, i forgot about that.. lol
on the straight side of the belt.. my teacher mentioned this, he said if u do it too tight it'll snap again, i cant remember what he said would happen if its too loose..
u just sort of wobble it with your finger to check the flex in the belt, mine was a bit loose and the teacher wasnt happy so he tightened it. He said to make sure its got about 1cm flex just as ECU-MAN said.
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Originally Posted by ECU-MAN
to correct this ..
once u have the timing belt on and tensioned.
spin the motor from the crank twice, and if all the marking on the cam gears and crank gear lines up the same .. its all good
spin it 2 revolotions 'cos the cam gears are 2 times the size of the crank gear . in which 1 turn from the crank only turns the cam gears 180 degrees. :thumbsup: