That's close to my average fuel consumption so far in the Eastern Suburbs. 9.2L/100km for the 6speed manual over 9 months.Quote:
Originally Posted by nexace
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That's close to my average fuel consumption so far in the Eastern Suburbs. 9.2L/100km for the 6speed manual over 9 months.Quote:
Originally Posted by nexace
When i test drove it, i never got the impression that the Accord V6 will blast the Euro away in terms of performance. It is faster but not by much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpine
GT is overpriced.Quote:
Originally Posted by nexace
For that price, they should have more powerful engine and more differentiation from cheaper Liberty models.
My average fuel consumption has been around 8.5L/100km although it jumped to 9.5 in my last tank of fuel because I was redlining it everywhere.
EH?Quote:
Originally Posted by coladuna
more powerful engine 190kw vs 121kw for the STD. I think it IS more powerful. I agree on the exterior looks abit 2.5i'ish though. It even gets the same 17inch wheels same front bar etc etc.. only the scoop lets you know there's a EJ20T lurking under :eek: as opposed to the RB which runs 18s a different front bar and subtle chromings..
However on the inside it's a different story to the 2.5i. the GT gets full leather + electrics, different middle console not to mention the brilliant McIntosh system..
I don't think GT is overpriced.
I just think Euro is better value and priced more aggresively.
I do agree that the GT should have different wheels and maybe a subtle bodykit (VERY SUBTLE like a front lip or deeper skirts) just to differentiate it from the lower models.
GT is definitely not overpriced, it simply should not be compared to Euro for anything but interior appointments and comfort. It's made to compete with BMW 3 series and alike and so represents superb value for money, sit in an E46 (328 or 330) 3 series and you'll notice how similar they are, not a bad interior to imitate either if you ask me.
Styling is designed to remain understated and classy.
As for sub-standard handling, I think you really need to drive one, or simply learn how to adjust driving styles for different vehicles, FF, FR & AWD all have their quirks, just drive around them. If you educate yourself with the wealth of info available you would know how capable, comfortable and stable the GT is, and trust me I've spent many hours as a passenger and some time as driver and always emerge impressed.
The funny thing is that in the US, the TSX is compared to the 325i, as both of them are about the same price. BMWs here down under are much more expensive when compared to the US.
Interesting how it is in other markets eh. Just wondering "aaronng" what you think of the power of the Euro, do you find it adequate or lacking? I'd imagine it would have a very smooth power delivery though like most Hondas.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
my 2c.....power in my euro seems to be more than adequate.....it seems if you dont rev past 4000 it feels like any other large 4cyl but if you give it a good rev even to just 5000-5500 you really feel the power.......in my opinion the best is a cold night like tonight as i just returned from a golf driving range and i gave it some on the way home and with the cool air it was fantastic..heaps of grunt.....
Haha, this is an interesting question. I drive the 6mt and it can be smooth and linear, yet once you floor the throttle, you still get the feeling that the engine pulls harder as the revs increase without the feeling of the engine running out of puff! Most other cars that are tuned to be linear just either have too much resistance to high revs, or have cams that just are not optimised for the upper range. I remember in another thread a while ago I posted sort of a description about the Euro. I'll fish it out.Quote:
Originally Posted by T-onedc2
Ahhh... so many posts to go through, but here it is:
I like the Euro's engine because it's flexible. If I'm in 2nd, I can accelerate nicely. If I want to give it a big of a fang, just have to make sure I'm above 3500rpm and it'll be heaps enough to lose your license in today's roads. And on the freeway, 3rd gear 5000-7000rpm is lovely! All this and it still returns a fuel economy of around 9L/100km if you drive without the intention of losing your licence. Bloody good for an engine with a 99mm stroke and no racing internals! What other car gives you something like this at such a good price point and still keeps the luxuries and comforts?Quote:
Aww... Victoria's nice.. snow's only a short drive away. I have to drive 5 hours to reach Snowy Mountains in NSW.
I noticed something about the Euro's engine.
Idle - 2100 rpm: Just an adequate amount of torque. Good for sedated driving (no overtaking for you) and low fuel consumption. Can get 9L/100km in 100% city driving, 6 - 7L/100km in highway.
2100 - 3500 rpm: A bit more spirited. On par with cars of other makes such as Camrys, V6 Commo and the odd pulsar being fanged.
3500 - 5000 rpm: The engine wakes up, throttle response is quick and only a very very very slight want of more torque if going up steep hills. Enough to scare wannabes away from Euros.
5000 - 7000 rpm: Beauuuuutiful... Scares V6 Camrys and V6 Commos. Shouldn't use this too much as the engine is after all a huge 2.4L inline-4. But when you do, the smile comes on your face.
I live in the 2100 - 3500 rpm zone. But once in a while I go to the 3500 - 5000 rpm for a smile in the twisties. I still can't make full use of 5000 - 7000 rpm in the twisties, but that is more suitable for the track.
Edit: I noticed that the experiences of 5AT drivers are somewhat different, with the car being sluggish. I think the torque convertor just saps away the power. This car NEEDS the 6MT.
Some good descriptions there and kind of what I thought it would be, it's great to have power that doesn't taper off towards redline, which gives top points in my book, much like most early 90's onwards Honda engines. Thanks.:)
For me personnally, I think 42K for a Euro is excellent value. But if I wanted a car with a more power, I would have gone for the GT. In which case, the car would have to be MT as well. Not sure what the figures are like for the Euro, but GT figures for 0-100 are something like 5.7 for MT and 6.8 for AT. Big difference...
I'm stuck with AT regardless (wife factor) so I don't think it's worthwhile getting a GT. And besides, we both want to stick with Honda! :D