..so wot are you getting at......???Quote:
Originally Posted by TODA AU
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..so wot are you getting at......???Quote:
Originally Posted by TODA AU
;)
they don't get itQuote:
Originally Posted by TODA AU
you have to feed them
i got it.....hence my wink...
no I dont
feed me
Trust me i'm not jumping on the bandwagon or anything... just first hand knowledge..
As Adrian has mentioned... Spoon is indeed designed for N1 racing. If you want drag, go Toda, for endurance go spoon. So what does spoon do, they rebuild a STOCK Type R motor to their specs whoo hooo.. Albiet a few more goodies ( only minor)... ( but does produce 120.8 kw atw with i/h/e+ power FC)
Quite frankly though, from what I have seen on most car forums, 99% is all talk i.e. crap! about 1% actually happens.
So take the advice or leave it.. or should I say listen to first hand knowledge or heresay...
BTW heres the proof....
http://redlineau.com/gallery/albun63/aav
Oh Adrian, props go to TODA products but cmon spoon is still ok...
Jansen, you are wrong, very wrong in your asumptions...Quote:
Originally Posted by jansenrw
TODA build more endurance cuircut engines that drag engines...
Also the fact that they're capable of producing both seems to have eluded you...
Endurance engines, sprint engines & drag engines are all variations on the same theme...
Furthermore...
If you actually knew the difference between an endurance engine & a sprint engine, you'd also change your tune about Spoon...
OT, but the latest ZOOM magazine features the JGTC series and the TODA powered NSXs. Be careful, TODA are the only guys that make JGTC engines, and that series combines enduros with some sprint type races.
OMG...just leave it man...
good on toda if they make good engines all i am trying to say is that send it to spoon factory and you'll get that figure and a engine that might last with all the trahsing it get's
not saying ur parts r crap toda AU ,say u bought TODA parts (which r good) and the installation was shoking...where ever u got it done
than that's waste of money..
spoon rebuilt engines wont b like that cuz they hand make the whole engine and spoon does have a high reputation...so wouldnt pull anything dodgy
i am talking about the quality and efficecy of the motor not sumthing pushes out massive power...and breaks easily or needs to look after everytime u thrash it
http://www.todaracing.com/topics/race_engines_02.html
We all need the b18c version! :thumbsup:
Here's my 2cents in a very broad way... Spoon make good engines which are better than stock due to finer tolerances, better balancing etc, but using mostly OEM parts. You could probably get your own motor built to `Spoon' Spec by getting it blue printed, balanced and upgrading a few parts.
Toda takes the engine to the next level by improving and designing new parts to replace OEM parts. If looked after you won't have any extra issues than running all OEM parts.
[[d a n n y]]
If you're in the market for a crate engine, or wish to send your engine to be overhauled in Japan because you've no faith in the engine builders in this country for whatever reason...
A TODA N1 engine will cost you the same as a Spoon N1 engine...
A modified engine will cost slightly to much more depending on what's done... Reliability isn't an issue... (Unless you opt for a sprint spec engine...)
mpd076-chuck - As I've said before...
If you want one... Just ask.. You can have one if you really want one...