but what if the vtir had the same mods?
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but what if the vtir had the same mods?
then obviously it would be faster... But not every1 is driving around modded..
You could say that about every car then..
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Originally Posted by locote
hah???
since when is a stock GSI "identical in performance" to a stock VTIR?
If both of these have an equally good driver then stock VTIR will eat a stock GSI. Things like a lower final drive, much lighter wheels, VTEC, bigger/better flowing headers, extra 1000 revs, and an extra 19kw, do make a difference you know.
Yes a stock GSI can be quicker then a stock VTIR but thats when the ability of the driver comes in..
hehe, it's not "identical in performance", obviously the vtir is more powerful with the extra 20kW (though it also weighs a bit more).
There is not much in it though!
A gsi with i/h/e is not equal to a stock vtir - it beats it. A vtir with the same mods will beat the gsi again
ive seen a vtir with same mods as when i rang my GSi at drags( both with intake mods)
He can only manage mid 15s mid 140skph
same times and term speeds as my GSi
too many variables.
you really wanna know which one is faster?
you drive each car yourself, then you can tell yourself which one is faster, no point in lets say you driving the gsi, and another person driving the vtir, beucase the variable there is the driver, the driver is what makes or breaks it, i've seen 220kw atw cars pull 14sec passes, where the formula is that that car is supposed to do 11's.
Thats why you look at the terminal speeds!!!
I know for a fact the vtir will only pull 1kph more or even less than a GSi.
Ive raced vtirs at the track and they are so evenly matched its any ones race..
I won by the skin of my teeth one time and the vtir the other.
then why the hell would there be a vtir ?
why dont they make a GSi-R instead..
dude a VTIR is quicker you were probably a better driver than the VTIR driver..
we are not talking about your gsi..
we are talking about GSi compared to VTIR's in general.
i've owned a series 1 VTIR and now i own a series 2 GSI 2000 model (however it's auto) and it has full exahust and to say for an auto car my GSI is not a push bike... its quite fast for an auto car .... the respect to GSIs have grown on me... i hated my car when i first had it
It's definitely slower than my old VTIR which absolutely screams when i let it strecth to the red line (I/H/E mad it sound even better) and it is certainly much more fun and addictive to drive... the most addictive part is the get up and go feeling you get when you are revvin up the red line....
P.S i don't have much to complain about my GSI except that it's bloody auto!!! trades anyone?? i want to shift gears agen !!!... ahhaa
But yeah hands down ill rather own a VTIR anyday then GSI...
save up bit more money mate be patient ... but it's not easy finding a good condition VTIR these days
LOL i aint disin the vtir .
HELL i put a B18c in my civic for F sake!!!
all i was trying to point out is if u just want a teggy cause u like the looks and the power up get from one (with out fkng round with it) then y spend all the extra$$ on a vtir.
You would have to be a complete D#$ S@$## to think a B18B will make as much power as B18C with same mods...
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Originally Posted by locote
I've done a 14.8 in my basically (only xforce headers/exhaust) stock VTIR, yet I pulled a 15.09 in a mates GSI (with exhaust, intake, lightweight wheels, HD clutch, ITR final drive). I was the driver of both.
but yeah, if performance isnt a big issue then i'd just get a GSI..