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No cage I am not going to put in
Have already front upper, lower, rear upper, lower braces, boot brace, plan on getting fender braces and maybe a b pillar/room brace
I asked them about seem welding my chassis (a smash repairer) and they said that they can drill holes then fill it with metal and mig/tig weld (or something along those lines anyway) to add chassis strength
How does that sound? Would it give benefits or possibly make things worse?
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are you serious? the cusco cages are shit jdm crap! if u want a cage, get a proper one, made to cams specifications.Quote:
Originally Posted by e240
Heres what im basing my claim off -
http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=712004
and theres plenty more out there
http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1189821
http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1456685&page=2
etc. etc.
good luck getting past tech inspection if u plan of doing any racing in australia
in my opionion, any cage that has single bolt joints holding it together instead of solid welds (no im not talking bout bolt in cages) is crap. see pics in the first thread for referance.
Regular Cusco cages are for looks and securing your harness to. They are not FIA approved. Cusco Safety 21 cages on the other hand are supposedly approved.
disappointing to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
As I said, if you bothered to read:Quote:
Originally Posted by Muzz
"Actually, the Cusco ones, even the curved ones are actually ok and approved in Japan for Motorsports. "
"CAMS approved only if you intend to race in Australia...."
I guess I have to elaborate this for you...You get CAMS approved cages only if you intend to race in Australia in events which require a Roll Cage.
Clear enough for you?
BTW, the sites you've quoted are just opinions of the layman. Their opinions mean nothing.
Agreed, if your going to get a cage get it to cams specs. We have our own regulations here in australia and if we want to partisipate in CAMS events then we must follow their rules and get a cage made up to their specs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muzz
Another advantage to getting it made up here is that you can get it made to up to road legal specs too.
How does it help us if its approved in japan - where in australia.Quote:
Originally Posted by e240
this bit i dont get sorry. CAMS is an australian only orginisation, there only concerned with racing regulations in australia. if u dont intend to race in australia, than u dont use CAMS regulations.Quote:
Originally Posted by e240
Are you trying to say this cage approved by CAMS for racing competition in australia? im shur most people here on ozhonda, if planning to start racing, would do so here in australia. Or are u trying to say it dosent matter that its not approved by cams, cus u dont need cams approval in japan?
im not saying its worthless or anything, im just saying for about the same price u could get a MUCH better more effective cage built, then paint it cusco blue:thumbsup:
While i would usually say the same thing about random info, let me just say, i spend most of my time online in the roadracing/autocross section of honda-tech, and i greatly respect the opionions of a few of the people involved in this discussion, who have a long history in racing, and building race cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by e240
For example, cagedruss builds cages for a living, heres his opionion:
"Did we all forget something here, the cage is made for Rice from Rice. It is a street/show piece. Not a Race piece. Remember, rules state main hoop has 4 bends equalling 180 +/- 10degrees, if you can't achieve that, you must do the whole cage in the next weight spec. I believe the a-pillar bars have a limit of bends also. I do not have my GCR to open, so I am shooting from the hip, forgive me if I am spewing Dog Crap!"
im my own "laymans" opionion i would chose to get a proper cage built, one with door bars to give some side impact protection.
i would add a harness bar in the main loop to mount the harnesses to. without the harness bar ull need to mount the harnesses way back from the seat to keep them at the proper angle, this leads to them having much more stretch/give, looseining up during a serious impact, not good it it involves multipul rolls etc.
We're saying the same thing basically. *Rolleyes*
I'm saying if you want to race in Australia, then you have to get a CAMs approved roll cage.
I never said that (and I know that they are not) the Cusco cages are CAMs approved.
re: Approved in Japan.
The point here is simply that it is an approved cage for Motorsports in Japan. Whether you want to use it here or anywhere, or whether its approved anywhere else, is another thing altogether.
Where does it say that Cusco cages are approved for motorsports in Japan? All it says is that Cusco cages are Japanese MOT-approved.Quote:
Originally Posted by e240