orright then boiz...and girls...
l guess i'll get the safc after i get my 2" catback...and tune it up and also tunr the ign timming manually...via distribvutor right ??..who knows a good tuning place?
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orright then boiz...and girls...
l guess i'll get the safc after i get my 2" catback...and tune it up and also tunr the ign timming manually...via distribvutor right ??..who knows a good tuning place?
You've decided to get an SAFC based on all THAT advice? :O lol... I'm still not quite sure what's going on...
I don't think anyone has really technically and logically given you an answer and a reason behind that answer yet Geoff. Might wanna research a little more?
man geoff, i said NO, NO NO NONNONONONONONONONO.
u cnat just adjust ignition timing by turning the distributer cap, u can advanve timing throught the whole rev rpm by doing that but not adjsut it where u need ot to suit ur AFR. SAFC = a POS, look at how many tuning points it gives u, the load and rpm spots are crap, worse than e-manage. The fuzzy logic of the ecu itself isnt good enough to extrapolate between the points well enough, so ur stuck with each aFR on the given tune points. but hey, whatever flaots ur boat man.
ok o kok ..lols..thenn whats a good piggy back ecu that i can get to tune whats needed..and also give a display like the safc does ?
u guyz telling me that the S-AFCII ain't gonna help me tune my engine ?? with the lil mods i got ?
nothing, best piggy back would be the unichip. but man, ur mods dont warrant any ecu or anything like that yet.
I agree. Read my post above.Quote:
Originally Posted by pornstar";p="108435
Before you get the safc get your exhaust , cam, milled head and adjustable cam gear.
Then look into tuning.
Save the 600+ and use it where it matters now :wink:
Joe
You guys are funny. Let me add my little but to this mess.
I used to own an Alfa Romeo 147. I modified the intake with a custom cold air intake and straight through exhaust system. Car was sounding fantastic, more response and I was pretty happy.
I then dynoed the car and wasn't too happy with the results as they equaled what the car is meant to have in the brochure! 110kw. So damn my mods felt and sounded great but power wise I hadn't made any at all it seemed.
I then spent the cash on a piggy back UNICHIP [acronym:494ca44ed2="Engine Control Unit"]ECU[/acronym:494ca44ed2] and a dyno tune and there is was. I got an 8kw gain from this damn expensive [acronym:494ca44ed2="Engine Control Unit"]ECU[/acronym:494ca44ed2] + tune. Was I happy with the money spent? in all honesty the answer is NO.
I very soon after sold the car and bought a car which had an engine which would respond very well to modifications (RB26).
Having said all this I am happy with my little [acronym:494ca44ed2="Single Overhead Cam"]SOHC[/acronym:494ca44ed2] Vtec to an extent... it's actually pretty punchy in 1st and 2nd gears (I rarely use 4th lol!) but I would like to try an engine conversion on it if I decide to hold on to the car for more than 2 years.
http://www.australianinfront.com.au/...tin/dyno/3.jpg
justine..what did the unichip tune ?
I have a 2inch zorst CAI blah blah blah but also have under drive pulleys in the D16y4, where in Brisbane would I be able to get a Unichip? any idea on how much. oh how do you know if the previous owner has fitted an aftermarket cam and upped the compression ( compression test?) as the bitch pulls like a mofo :)
proper way is to open up teh headm, check teh cams urself, then while ur at it, take out an intake valve, pour that liquid i forgot the name of it (mon monrnoning) and then crank engine, that will tell u exact CR.
not sure who tunes unichip, but if u got those mods, why botehr with a piggyback.
[quote] I used to own an Alfa Romeo 147. I modified the intake with a custom cold air intake and straight through exhaust system. Car was sounding fantastic, more response and I was pretty happy.
I then dynoed the car and wasn't too happy with the results as they equaled what the car is meant to have in the brochure! 110kw. So damn my mods felt and sounded great but power wise I hadn't made any at all it seemed.
I then spent the cash on a piggy back UNICHIP [acronym:c9e1ece200="Engine Control Unit"]ECU[/acronym:c9e1ece200] and a dyno tune and there is was. I got an 8kw gain from this damn expensive [acronym:c9e1ece200="Engine Control Unit"]ECU[/acronym:c9e1ece200] + tune.
I very soon after sold the car and bought a car which had an engine which would respond very well to modifications (RB26). [quote]
It sounds to me like you were expecting too much from your alfa. I cant really coment however since I have never owned any alfa. However from your experience I can pick up a couple of things that need to be brought into account:
1. The alfa is not a honda.
2. Manufacturers' power output at the flywheel is only a rounded off figure which is used on brochures and magazines as a sales pitch. You should not use it to compare power figures even across two vehicles which are the same.
Let me give you an example.
The ITR is written to have 144kws at the flywheel. However on a base dyno WE KNOW that ITR will put down between 89-95kw/kw's. No two ITR's will have the same power output on different dynos.
In other words comparing what honda/alfa says on a brochure/magazine/website its not a wise comparison to ACTUAL information.
My suggestion to you would have been to do a base run WITHOUT the I/E and then do another run. That way you would know from the same dyno what benefits there were if any.
3. I/E do not net too many gains on n/a engine. We know this from experience. If you do enough reasearch you'll see that on a n/a motor the entire exhaust system needs to be upgraded (headers/high flow cat/exhaust)to net any decent gains. And also if you do enough reasearch you will also see that to get decent power from a n/a motor what is needed is higher compression/cams/headwork/tuning.
4. We know for a fact that most performance vehicles can net positive gains from tuning the ignition/air/fuel and no other mods. Some vehicles will repond better to others of course. My motor is living proof of this claim.
Joe
wow another D vs B war. :roll:
mad props to yonus for ****ing up that prelude :twisted:
and mad props to anyone that kicks a D and doesnt hate it. :twisted:
and well, basically i cant wait to unleash my D back onto the roads in
August. :twisted: