trouble engaging second?

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08-10-2008, 07:44 AM
viper8548

On my car I cannot shift into first gear if my speed is above 20km/h, are you getting locked up while below 20km/h?
08-10-2008, 08:08 AM
Crapdaz

no, i can get to 1st gear if you rev match.

it's stationary, as i said at the lights.
08-10-2008, 08:19 AM
aaronng

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Originally Posted by Crapdaz

Hey guys,

Didn't want to start a new thread.
But i want to find out if you guys find it sometimes it locks up when trying to shift from neutral > 1st gear.

Cause i normally chuck the car in neutral when i get to the lights on my way home and lately it's been getting stuck every so often. Twice this week.

Is this a problem with the synchros or anything else i don't know off?
Can it be the need for MTF change?

Cheers guys.

You're just having bad luck lol. You seem to get tooth on tooth quite often. I get it about once a month. Do you put it into 1st as soon as you press the clutch down or do you wait a few seconds after the clutch is pressed in before you put it into 1st? Try going into 1st as soon as you clutch in. The spinning input shaft should reduce your chances of getting tooth on tooth. You might wear the synchros a little more, but 1st gear synchros very rarely gets worn anyway because you won't be shifting into 1st while you are moving (at least without doubleclutching anyway)
08-10-2008, 08:27 AM
Crapdaz

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Originally Posted by aaronng

You're just having bad luck lol. You seem to get tooth on tooth quite often. I get it about once a month. Do you put it into 1st as soon as you press the clutch down or do you wait a few seconds after the clutch is pressed in before you put it into 1st? Try going into 1st as soon as you clutch in. The spinning input shaft should reduce your chances of getting tooth on tooth. You might wear the synchros a little more, but 1st gear synchros very rarely gets worn anyway because you won't be shifting into 1st while you are moving (at least without doubleclutching anyway)

Yeh sometimes i shift lightning fast into first and thats when i hit a brickwall! :mad:.
I'll give it a go and see if it makes much difference in shifting.

But yeh as i said initially i don't always get it but this week have come across it more often then usual.

Damn i should change my MTF as well but my car is too low to slide jack in and its a pain in the ass to jack the car up using the wheeljack first then hydraulic.
A bit off topic, you reckon it's worth getting ramps?
08-10-2008, 08:38 AM
aaronng

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Originally Posted by Crapdaz

Yeh sometimes i shift lightning fast into first and thats when i hit a brickwall! :mad:.
I'll give it a go and see if it makes much difference in shifting.

But yeh as i said initially i don't always get it but this week have come across it more often then usual.

Damn i should change my MTF as well but my car is too low to slide jack in and its a pain in the ass to jack the car up using the wheeljack first then hydraulic.
A bit off topic, you reckon it's worth getting ramps?

No, your front bumper/lip will hit the ramp. My car is much higher than yours and it already hits the ramps. Plus I don't have a lip! Drive up on wood planks and then slide the jack underneath.
08-10-2008, 05:06 PM
power_of_dreams

Isn't it not the best thing to shift into first while car is moving?
08-10-2008, 05:14 PM
aaronng

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Originally Posted by power_of_dreams

Isn't it not the best thing to shift into first while car is moving?

Yup, not good. But you can do it without damage if you double clutch first.
08-10-2008, 08:07 PM
EUR003act

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Originally Posted by aaronng

Yup, not good. But you can do it without damage if you double clutch first.

double clutch FTW! :thumbsup:

as for trouble getting into second... its a very common problem with the 6sp gearbox to sometimes crunch/bounce when changing 1st to 2nd :(

mine sometimes does it... and no its not my fault... lol
08-10-2008, 08:15 PM
Crapdaz

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Originally Posted by EUR003act

double clutch FTW! :thumbsup:

as for trouble getting into second... its a very common problem with the 6sp gearbox to sometimes crunch/bounce when changing 1st to 2nd :(

mine sometimes does it... and no its not my fault... lol

*cough cough BS cough cough*
yeh i found that too hard to shift into 2nd if your at the wrong rev range.

but for some reason my 1st gear got stuck twice while shifting from being stationary.
08-10-2008, 08:20 PM
EUR003act

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Originally Posted by Crapdaz

*cough cough BS cough cough*
yeh i found that too hard to shift into 2nd if your at the wrong rev range.

but for some reason my 1st gear got stuck twice while shifting from being stationary.

hahahaha again with the following! lmao! :thumbsup:

yeah if im thrashing the engine it never happens... its only when im driving normal lol suppose it gives me an excuse to VTEC! hahaha :honda: FTW
08-10-2008, 08:24 PM
Crapdaz

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Originally Posted by EUR003act

hahahaha again with the following! lmao! :thumbsup:

yeah if im thrashing the engine it never happens... its only when im driving normal lol suppose it gives me an excuse to VTEC! hahaha :honda: FTW

Yeh when i was driving through twisties at blue mountains.

Hit vtec around 5800rpm go up to around 6500 then shift to 2nd and revs drop a tad under 6.

The shifting was heaps smooth and easy. Not sluggish or getting caught at all.
08-10-2008, 09:17 PM
power_of_dreams

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Originally Posted by EUR003act

double clutch FTW! :thumbsup:

as for trouble getting into second... its a very common problem with the 6sp gearbox to sometimes crunch/bounce when changing 1st to 2nd :(

mine sometimes does it... and no its not my fault... lol

Only bounced on me once and that was after the mtf change. The crunch was :eek:

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