so does that mean they stuffed up with the FN2R?Quote:
Originally Posted by 6-SpeedManual
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so does that mean they stuffed up with the FN2R?Quote:
Originally Posted by 6-SpeedManual
Yeah, I guess they brought the hatch because it is different to the normal civic line.Quote:
Originally Posted by 6-SpeedManual
Truth is 4 doors sells way better than 2 doors. Everyone that brought a FN2R would have brought a FD2R, + all those extra sales from people like me. :)
I got a new CU2 euro, 'cause the hatch doesn't suit my needs. I would have gladly payed $10k - $15k extra for a FD2R.....
me thinks so....Quote:
Originally Posted by Tofu
the market wants fast cars with comfort & safety features. that's why GTR/EVO has gone to auto shift dual clutch manual and 200kg of fat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Type R Positive
FD2R delivers the first bit but not the 2nd bit. wtf still dual airbags? u can get away with that in the 90s but not now unfortunately.
FD2r still works in Japan tho. most owners would rip the bags off for a Nardi/momo in no time. and a recaro comes straight after. so no side bags are better over there.
and i was looking at a Honda mag the other day, Honda sold around 250 FD2R in japan a month. which is like 35% of the total Civic sales over there.
well at least better than nothing.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Tofu
don't just blame Ford and Holden, most if not all other brands are quilty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Type R Positive
Toyota and co pushed hard to get rid of the import scheme and 15 years old.
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Originally Posted by dannybubu
that's why i went to the trouble to import a EP3 + got a GTI (despite new models are coming soon) instead of a FN2.
true...but don't the civic vti only have front air bags? so what's the problem? well...obviously type r is faster car but still...someone can go 180km/h in civic vti as well...Quote:
Originally Posted by Philip Lee
lol if i need a nice well built car to run the fam or myself around town, good on resale ect that is conservative id buy a honda.Quote:
Originally Posted by Type R Positive
if i want a performance car with power id buy an FPV or HSV.
power and torque is one thing honda doesnt have. wow vtec
But how much does a vti cost and how much would a FD2R cost if it is available here.Quote:
Originally Posted by dannybubu
price/equipment, how does FD2R compares with its competitors (in terms of $$) XR5/WRX/GTI/R26/VXR/Cooper S etc etc.
unfortunately we only make up a small % of the market.
My comments went over your head......Quote:
Originally Posted by UNLS1
Please refer to Philip Lee's reply. ;)
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Originally Posted by Philip Lee
FN2R being from Europe, most of the standards design and safety are usable as evidence to have the car approved. As long as the FN2R passes in Europe, it'll pass in Australia.
FD2R being from Japan, the standards aren't as stringent or are they as anal as Australian standards means additional cost in either getting it tested or more than likely having to produce parts up to Australian standard (Bullshit I know but apparently Japanese headlights aren't good enough for Australian standards, but good enough for 300km/h runs on the Wangan, just an example but its actually not that far off, have looked into importing stuff myself and the list of shit is amazing)
So it might just been a hell of a lot easier and cheaper to import the FN2R than the FD2R. Its just a PR bullshit that its too hardcore, Pagani Zonda too hardcore but its sold in Australia? And half the other exotics XD Honda Australia just doesn't see it feasible to import the FD2R, but in the end, they're a business so have to survive somehow...