Civic Type R $39,990 + On Roads

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Originally Posted by yfin

The comparison was between the MPS, GTI and CTR - not those other cars you mention. That fact is the CTR is expressed to be the slowest of the lot. If they thought the CTR was best they would have said so. But they didn't. They don't need timeslips to decide which car they prefer.

The GTI is hardly pedestrian and has achieved much better than 15.3 published. The last test I saw in Motor was 14.6 for the DSG and 0-100 in 6.5 (July 07). The manual is slower but the CTR is behind the GTI according to Motor anyway on pace.

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I was stating the FACT that the GTI is NOT the fastest TURBO hatch available,they made it sound such a hero that is was able to out accelerate(in gear) the NA Civic and yes ,I know the CTR was the slowest in the test,it is most likely going to be the slowest in any review we will read.
Talking about the comparison ,the MPS is faster than the Golf GTI,so there.:)And as for time slips ,of course it seemed to be a half arsed test so when testing performance vehicles no one wants to know about aceleration times,1/4 mile times,0-100kmh times etc:rolleyes:

CTR is not fast but its not about how fast it is. Same like a girl, you dont want to just sleep with them if you are looking for a seious relationship u need balance between look, bodyshape, personality and ofcourse performance :). Ugly looking girl can perform good as well you know

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Originally Posted by sitta

CTR is not fast but its not about how fast it is. Same like a girl, you dont want to just sleep with them if you are looking for a seious relationship u need balance between look, bodyshape, personality and ofcourse performance :). Ugly looking girl can perform good as well you know

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I understand and agree what you are saying.I know it's not totally about how fast. :D

LOL i was wondering when someone is going to make this car review comparison to dating girls/guys....

just buy the car you love, for those that have bought a CTR, why do you care what others on forums have to say about your car, or any car that one owns for that matter...

I would get called a pansy for buying a Mini Cooper S, but i don't care.
You don't need to get defensive or even bother what others have to say about your car, it's their opinion.

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Originally Posted by industrie

if honda australia didnt decide to bring out the sports civic model they could have had a chance to bring in the JDM civic type R in low numbers ...that would have been a great alternative...

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the civic sport has been a great seller so far, i doubt honda would want to have lost those sales to keep a relative handful of hardcore enthusiasts happy

realistically i dont think honda will be releasing many hondas that will keep US happy. the market is different these days, the cars are all made of plastic and its all about cost cutting and safety etc.

gone are the days of noisey lightweight little beasts u can track on the weekend :(

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Originally Posted by Tofu

just buy the car you love, for those that have bought a CTR, why do you care what others on forums have to say about your car, or any car that one owns for that matter...

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exactly

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Originally Posted by Tofu

I would get called a pansy for buying a Mini Cooper S, but i don't care.
You don't need to get defensive or even bother what others have to say about your car, it's their opinion.

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u serious, i love the cooper s! was gonna get one but jus couldnt get the money together... i like the interior of the 2002-06 ones.. the new one just looks too busy.. that lil turbo engine would go pretty well but...

but anyways back to the CTR. at the end of the day, if u like it, buy it. thats all that matters... and no one said the GTi was the fastest (in gear its pretty damn good tho - although the chip makes it a lot better). its better balanced then the MPS tho... thats just a torque steering beast lol

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Originally Posted by UNLS1

we have a demo, but we wont and i know 3 of my mates at other dealers will NOT give one to a customer for half a day, we must be in the car for a test drive.

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mate this is exactly my point. How is Honda supposed to compete with Volkswagen and Audi if they don't let the demos be driven privately? Is this protective attitude coming from Honda Australia or is it coming from dealership management?

I wanna see if the car fits in with my lifestyle not if it drives well when I drive it round the block. To be perfectly honest it turned me of the type R totally the way I was treated at the dealership.
I will probably be looking spending the 48k on second hand Audi S3 for the same sort of money as the Type R. The first impressions at the dealership totally killed it for me. especially after the sales staff slimed after some grandma interested in a 15,000 jazz after saying he was going to get the keys for us.

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Originally Posted by industrie

if honda australia didnt decide to bring out the sports civic model they could have had a chance to bring in the JDM civic type R in low numbers ...that would have been a great alternative...

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the civic sport has been a great seller so far, i doubt honda would want to have lost those sales to keep a relative handful of hardcore enthusiasts happy

realistically i dont think honda will be releasing many hondas that will keep US happy. the market is different these days, the cars are all made of plastic and its all about cost cutting and safety etc.

gone are the days of noisey lightweight little beasts u can track on the weekend :(

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even if the 4 door type R was around at the time the decision to bring in the sport was made i highly doubt they would have chosen it. being a 4 door car. On paper it would have been up against WRX, EVO and other 4 door sports cars. It doesn't make any sense why you would buy the "JDM" type R over these in a similar price bracket. at least the "Euro" Civic Type R is different looking to the plain Jane 4 door civics they are selling currently.
I'd actually prefer if they brought the standard 4 door hatch back from the UK the car would be perfect for my aunt who is looking for a new car. She has her eye on the 1 series BMW but its just garbage for a stupid amount of money. The build quality of the CTR is far superior however she wants 4 doors and automatic. I'm taking her to the Volkswagen dealership next week and hopefully she will see how much better the golf is than the 1 series after a test drive.

Is the CTR limited to 800 vehicles for this year ???? as I walked in to my local honda dealer and thats what they told me ???? $44950RRP drive away

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Originally Posted by Catcha

Is the CTR limited to 800 vehicles for this year ???? as I walked in to my local honda dealer and thats what they told me ???? $44950RRP drive away

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It was 1200 CTR in the first year ...
but the thing is how many of the they will be able to sell ?
Will see in a cpouple of weeks when Honda publish their sales figures for July at the beginning of August.

It'll be limited to whatever the dodgy car salesmen says to make you think you won't get a discount.

agreed moya xD
i'm sure honda dealers can go lower then 44k, just wait till the end of year when demand should begin to cool down.

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Originally Posted by CTR Coupe

She has her eye on the 1 series BMW but its just garbage for a stupid amount of money. The build quality of the CTR is far superior however she wants 4 doors and automatic. I'm taking her to the Volkswagen dealership next week and hopefully she will see how much better the golf is than the 1 series after a test drive.

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what model 1 series are you looking at?
I have a 120i and I do admit the quality of the new model BMW are a little disappointing...but I have seen worse. If she's all about interior quality, then go buy a VW Golf...but the Golf doesn't drive like a 1 Series I can assure you that ;)