Sportivo/T-Sport or Type R?

Was more with potential than a drag race/straight line power E-Wang contest lol...

EM1 - 160PS / 1114kg
ZZE123 - 190PS / 1224kg

~110kg difference?

I thought EM1s are ~15secs stock? ZZE123 High 14s?

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Originally Posted by DreadAngel

Was more with potential than a drag race/straight line power E-Wang contest lol...

EM1 - 160PS / 1114kg
ZZE123 - 190PS / 1224kg

~110kg difference?

I thought EM1s are ~15secs stock? ZZE123 High 14s?

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Depends on driver skill. Anyone know the trap speeds?

Hope this helps.

Out of the cars I have owned here are the Hondas: DC5R ( OZ ), JDM EF9 ( NZ ) genuine EK9 ( in NZ ), EK4, EK3 ( in NZ), EK1 (in NZ), Eg6 (in NZ), Eg5 ( OZ), Driven a BB6 for a while and a DC2R ( in NZ, jdm spec/front). Also have driven Sportivos, both station wagon version and 4-door hatch. I havn't had any experience with the newer Hondas after owning the DC5R; I hated the driving position and the how the nose just dips and disappears while behind the wheel, guess need time to adjust or whatever, but no one can beat Honda's engines, be it a B-series or K-series even D-series, they are very special units, heaps of after market/potential/fun.

As for the sportivos' they fell into bad driving position category, the seat position is very high compared to older generation Hondas (Ek,Eg Dc2) which usually makes me nervous especially on the track, the suspension wasn't very inspiring either, but the 2ZZ engine is very impressive, with a good driver it will beart DC2Rs' with equally match drivers and give K20s' a good run for their money, but over all the gear ratios need more refinement, they aren't as well set like the K-series and B-series to work well with the motor's power band.

If I were going to chose my favorite out of the cars I have experienced, The EF9 would take the cake. But a well balanced EG chassis is also hard to beat, especially if it is equipped with a K24.

I am still an amateur when it come to car, but hope that helped you.

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Originally Posted by butterfingers

straight line power, em1 woudnt be that far behind, its much lighter than the corolla

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I raced a sportivo in a EK4 and got left in the dust. :o
6speed 1.8L VS 5speed 1.6L

Not much of a contest, EK heavier than EG, B16A does well to move the EG but B16A2 doesn't do that well moving the EK...

Thanks man! I think I'm slowly starting to make my mind up for my first. I was considering the FN2, but it's too pricey. The T-Sport or Em1 was my next choice. I liked the looks of the EM1 and I like the sound of a B16a2, plus it's apparently a blast to drive. But the T-Sport was a similar price and offered more features and somewhat performance.

Not considering the DC2/DC2R? Would be more similar to da rolla in terms of torque for daily dooties

I love Integra's, but I think they're banned for P-Platers as they have 129kw per tonne. I could be wrong with that stat though.

^ lmzzooooooooooooooo

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Originally Posted by MassiEk4

I raced a sportivo in a EK4 and got left in the dust. :o
6speed 1.8L VS 5speed 1.6L

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proof tht power weight ratio doesnt show the whole picture.

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Originally Posted by MassiEk4

Hope this helps.

Out of the cars I have owned here are the Hondas: DC5R ( OZ ), JDM EF9 ( NZ ) genuine EK9 ( in NZ ), EK4, EK3 ( in NZ), EK1 (in NZ), Eg6 (in NZ), Eg5 ( OZ), Driven a BB6 for a while and a DC2R ( in NZ, jdm spec/front). Also have driven Sportivos, both station wagon version and 4-door hatch. I havn't had any experience with the newer Hondas after owning the DC5R; I hated the driving position and the how the nose just dips and disappears while behind the wheel, guess need time to adjust or whatever, but no one can beat Honda's engines, be it a B-series or K-series even D-series, they are very special units, heaps of after market/potential/fun.

As for the sportivos' they fell into bad driving position category, the seat position is very high compared to older generation Hondas (Ek,Eg Dc2) which usually makes me nervous especially on the track, the suspension wasn't very inspiring either, but the 2ZZ engine is very impressive, with a good driver it will beart DC2Rs' with equally match drivers and give K20s' a good run for their money, but over all the gear ratios need more refinement, they aren't as well set like the K-series and B-series to work well with the motor's power band.

If I were going to chose my favorite out of the cars I have experienced, The EF9 would take the cake. But a well balanced EG chassis is also hard to beat, especially if it is equipped with a K24.

I am still an amateur when it come to car, but hope that helped you.

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It's not the engine. The only reason the sportivo comes even close to beating a dc2 is because of the gearbox. 6 gears means shorter 3rd 4th and 5th than the dc2r and therefore more torque at wheels. It will pull away gradually

Saying that anything with the name corolla in it and beat anything with the type r heritage is embarrassing and blasphemy at its most evil and makes baby Jesus cry.

I agree with butterfingers! ^