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I don't like this Max Mosley chap at all, the bullshit he spits out after tha fact is a pathetic attempt to cover his own arse and shift all blame of "cheating" onto Bar Honda. I haven't followed this very closely but his "revealed suspect" from the start of the year is absolute bullshit, if he is so all knowing why didn't he get the car pulled apart earlier? Isn't that his job?
A few interesting articles from f1-live.com
BAR Honda gets FIA warning
The team's comments under investigation
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The FIA didn't appreciate
some of BAR's comments
Motorsport's world governing body, the FIA, on Monday warned the BAR-Honda Formula One team to accept their two-race ban or face further punishment.
BAR-Honda were given the suspension, which forced them out of the Spanish and Monaco Grand Prix races, after Jenson Button's car was found to be underweight following the San Marino Grand Prix.
The team were fiercely critical of their punishment, first promising to fight the decision of the FIA's International Court of Appeal before withdrawing that threat and criticising the severity of the penalty.
The FIA said Monday that they are examining BAR's comments to see if they can be charged with bringing the sport into disrepute. The FIA statement said: "No manufacturer, however large, will be allowed a concealed or unfair advantage. Those unable or unwilling to accept this have no place in Formula One.
"They should also understand that any sport is likely to impose further sanctions on a competitor which attacks the integrity of the governing body when caught breaking the rules.
"Statements attributed to the management of BAR-Honda are currently under investigation in the light of the team's obligation to do nothing 'prejudicial to the image and dignity of Formula One racing' or 'prejudicial to the interests of any competition or to the interests of motor sport generally'.
"The manufacturers concerned came into Formula One for their own reasons. They were not invited - they invited themselves. Each of them accepted the rules and structures of the sport as they had done on many previous occasions."
The FIA also dismissed criticism of their appeals court, which five of the Formula One engine manufacturers want replaced by the independent Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS).
There was widespread belief in the paddock that BAR were not treated unduly harshly and concerns about whether the FIA's appeal court is truly independent of the governing body.
DaimlerChrysler, Renault, BMW, Toyota and Honda, which owns 45 percent of BAR, called for an "independent appeals process administered by an internationally recognised body."
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Ferrari must improve qualifying performance
Jean Todt's number one priority
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There is a problem...
Ferrari failed to score a championship point in last Sunday’s Spanish Grand Prix at the Circuit de Catalunya outside Barcelona, following poor qualifying from both drivers and eventual retirement for Michael Schumacher with two deflating tyres.
“It’s getting more difficult," admitted Ferrari Team Principal Jean Todt. "Every race where the others score six, eight, ten points more than us makes it more difficult for us. But it’s a long championship, there are 14 races to go.”
In terms of resources, Todt admitted that “we have everything. It’s up to us. We don’t do a good enough job, that’s clear. We’re not going to find excuses. There’s not a lot missing. But we must start in front. If we start in front we will be strong.”
That, in a nutshell, is Ferrari’s current handicap: qualifying. And in turn, that is caused by the lack of performance of their tyres over one lap. Of all the things that Ferrari have to improve, that would be Todt’s priority.
“I would say it is mainly that first lap. It puts us in a difficult and critical situation. It’s so much easier when you start ahead. If you start in front you remain in front. We are quite good on durability up to a certain point, but we have to analyse what happened (here). We had an engine problem on Rubens’s car, which completely compromised his race, even if it wasn’t caused by fundamental new parts on this part of the engine. I would say unfortunately it’s things that normally happen, because we have been so successful without having any failures and then suddenly they come. It’s under our control, it’s up to us, we have to work better.”
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A difficult race for Schumacher...
Todt pointed out that there are advantages and disadvantages to being the only competitive team on Bridgestone tyres. “We are alone fighting with Bridgestone tyres. As I have said, Bridgestone is a great partner, great, because we’ve won more than anybody else with them. But if we have the slightest problem, which is the case at the moment, we end up with eight cars in front of us. But do I complain? No, we know this, but we wanted this situation.
“Having said that, we would have nothing against another top team on Bridgestone. It would definitely help in testing,” continued Todt before explaining Bridgestone’s current situation with one lap tyre development. “They are working on it, but you know then to achieve a result is a question mark, and before the next race? It can be two races, three, five or anything.”
The Spanish Grand Prix was won by Kimi Raikkonen by over 20s from Fernando Alonso, who had won the last three races. Was Todt surprised by Raikkonen’s pace? “It was the same pace at Imola when Raikkonen was in front, and definitely Alonso was struggling for a while today,” said Todt.
Michael Schumacher had been third when he retired; could he have finished second? “I don’t want to guess. The only thing I know is that he was heavier than the others, which allowed him to be third when he retired. Unless a specific problem arose, he would have been fighting to improve the situation. Whether he would have done it or not, I don’t know.”
But Todt has been encouraged by the performance of the Ferrari F2005 since its debut three races ago. “We were very competitive in Bahrain until we were in the race. At Imola we were very competitive but we started too far back. Here, today, we were very competitive until we had a problem, and we started too far back. It’s what I said. We are competitive, but at the moment we don’t score points, which is no good. It’s better not to be competitive and score maximum points, but that wouldn’t happen either.”
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BAR gambled and paid the price
Says Ferrari's Jean Todt
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Jean Todt
Ferrari team principal Jean Todt on Monday backed the sport's governing body, the FIA, over their decision to ban rivals BAR Honda from the Spanish and Monaco Grand Prix races.
BAR, who finished runners-up to Ferrari last year, were last week found guilty of running their cars illegally at the San Marino Grand Prix and Todt said they have rightfully been made to pay.
"If you play, it all depends on the limit where you want to play and where you don't want to play," said Todt. "For them, they take a risk and you can get the cost of it, and that's what happened.
"Whether the punishment was enough or not enough, I'm not going to comment on the decision that was taken. I don't like people to judge us, so I would feel uncomfortable to say that and then to judge them. All I will say is that Ferrari would never have got themselves into the situation where they (BAR Honda) have been."
Jenson Button and Takuma Sato were forced to sit out the race here last Sunday and will miss the glamorous race in Monaco next week before returning to the grid for the European Grand Prix at the end of May.
They were accused of running underweight at Imola, the fourth race of the year, but have continued to protest their innocence since the ban was handed out by the International Court of Appeal last Thursday.
BAR's season has been a massive disappointment and the team are yet to score a point after retiring both cars from the first three races and seeing their double finish in San Marino scratched from the record books.
Ferrari are in similar trouble, however, and Todt has no sympathy for BAR as he focuses on turning around the fortunes of world champion Michael Schumacher and Rubens Barrichello.
Schumacher finished second behind Fernando Alonso in San Marino but Todt said: "We lost that race because of them, because of the many laps Michael spent (behind Button). But all that is history. You must always leave what has happened, you cannot re-make races. It's too easy to criticise others, to judge. All I can say is that we need to improve.
"It's easy to say but difficult to achieve because our opposition are very strong. We are competitive, but at the moment we don't score points, which is no good. It's under our control, but it's getting more difficult (for the title). Every race where the others score more points than you it makes it more difficult. But it's a long championship, there are 14 races to go.
"We have been like this already in the past. We like winning, but we accept losing. But if you ask me which I prefer, the answer is easy. We don't do a good enough job, that's clear. We're not going to find excuses."
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'Those who think we are out of it do not know us'
Says Michael Schumacher
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'It is far from over' - Schumacher
The result was a headline writer's dream: Schumacher and Ferrari left deflated, or something along those lines. The result could have given Michael a hangover but the surprising thing (or perhaps not too surprising) is that he is far from feeling gloomy a day after his retirement from the Spanish GP.
Instead Michael wanted to again thank all those behind the scenes. "Those who consider us to be out of the running do not know us," he declared. "Of course it wasn't the greatest result in the race for the title; that is clear enough. Despite this, the season's opening races have proved just how much can change during a single weekend and how quickly they can change. So, I'll say it once more: the season is a long one and lots could still happen. Obviously the title challenge has got harder but all is not yet lost. We will go on working and battling. As I said yesterday, it is far from over."
Rubens will be back out testing as early as tomorrow (Tuesday). Michael will be behind the wheel at Maranello on Wednesday and Thursday. "We will not be swayed by all the worry. We will work calmly on our weak points and we will get back to being competitive as soon as we can."
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Ill put 5 bucks now that ferrari are out of it against ya jase :)
Yeah I think BAR should cop it on the chin. Good response to the appeal by the FIA threatening harsher punishments if they continue with the appeal!
Love Todt, what honesty! saying they have everything and its up to us, we arent doing a good enough job. Good on him! And like Jean and Michael said, its a long season, still only the begining!! Anything can happen from here and it will certainly make the remaining races extremely interesting! Good post there Jase good articles:thumbsup:
Actually, Todt is an arrogant prick. The fact of the matter is Jenson was not running underweight, so he cannot say it is BAR's fault they did not win. Schumacher was bnot behind button that much either, and his pass was relatively given to him. Farking bullshit, sore loser.
I think it's time for BAR to shut up. They copped a dodgy one, they've made their point and now they must move on. Work on the car and drivers and hit the ground running when they get back into it.
Jean Todt and Michael Schumacher are right. Get the qualifying right and they'll win race after race. Schumacher it a great competetor and once he's ahead it will be very hard to beat him and the Ferrari tacticians.
It's a long season, but I don't think Schumacher can win from here. He'd need a lot of luck and mistakes from Alonso and Renault. Even if he won all the races from now on, he still might not win the championship. But it's possible. Only takes a couple of races to change the championship.
yeah BAR should simply move on i think. Michael may yet win, long season, and if they climb to the usual dominance itll be good, but thats unlikely, I reckon we are set for a great season till the final race!
Get real! Schumacher has no chance!
as the manufacturers go its still wide open.. BAR r still in with a chance hoho
but as for the drivers championship... imo i dun think the great Michael can do it... unless Bridgestone turn their tyre performance around.. its all over red rover...
true that about the tyres, there not copin this year:thumbdwn: anywho, its all exciting:D
I'd never say that about Schumacher, the man is a god who has worked miracles before....Quote:
Originally Posted by Javed
plus, they have money to burn, a private test track to use 7 days a week, and a tyre company who is trying to custom design tyres to their needs.
GO FERRARI AND baR hopefully they can make it more compeditive