OPINIONS - d-series build up or b16a?

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Originally Posted by Captiva_Blue

Personally, I'm definitely sticking with my D-series (D16Y1). I've got a perfectly good engine sitting under my bonnet right now and with stock B-series transplant money I can get a lot more ponies out of it than a stock B will give me..

Quite a few companies are now making headers and full length exhausts for the D (hurricane & X-force to name a couple) and intakes and filters are pretty much universal. The custom stuff (boring out the intake manifold, porting/polishing etc) is gonna cost you pretty much the same for a B or a D anyway, maybe even more for a B. The only real problem in Oz is the cams, pistons and valves but thats what international postage is for :)

Besides, going fast in a straight line and buring ppl off at the lights isn't where the real fun is. It's going through the twisties with a well sorted chassis that gives the most pure joy (for me anyway).

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to get alot power from a d series allmtr required alot of internal engine work.Try exospeed.com , JG engine dynamics for cams + pistons etc kit.

ANother option is turbocharge the D series. easiest way to get power.

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Originally Posted by EG5

to get alot power from a d series allmtr required alot of internal engine work.Try exospeed.com , JG engine dynamics for cams + pistons etc kit.

ANother option is turbocharge the D series. easiest way to get power.

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^^Agree, all motor on a d equals a shitload of cash for big results (same with any honda motor really), I think you'd be better off turbocharging if you can afford to take that option (money and insurance wise).

yeh, well ive decided to go down the same road and do up the d16a8 wit the money i wouldve spent on the conversion. im not chasing big figures, just wana drill a few commodores and hopefully pull some half decent times out of it.. turbo is always the best power option obviously, but ive had too many troubles wit turbos, hence the change to a civic..

nic

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Originally Posted by JasonGilholme

I know im only a new member and im really excited about V-TEC but i've seen plenty of D series haulin ass!! Theres a white CRX in one of my hot fours magazines. Its been totally worked, with turbo and everythin. I think it pulls about 270 kw at the wheels!!! and if that isn't fast enough for you then i don't know what is.
Jason

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haha your talking about andy's CRX posts a respectable 11.73 quatermile time.
http://www.redpepperracing.com/galle...6959-1/aas.jpg
*bennjamin edit DONT hijack threads mate. Warned ;)

As i found out by Andy's brother Jonston who gave me a ride in his blue booster on friday.
http://www.redpepperracing.com/galle...4912-1/aah.jpg

i saw a worked d series in the flesh about a month ago, from what i can remember it had some wiseco forged pistons, cams and a microtech. I'm unsure of what the head had done to it, but it was making about 30kw more at the wheels than a stock d-series would, so i'm guessing there was a fair bit of work done to it...
The car ended up with around 85kw at the wheels, which isn't all that much considering the effort that had gone into it... a stock b16a would make about that much, and it would probably cost less.
So unless you're planning on going FI, maybe it'd be a goot time to look at your other options ;)

yup for the money spent NA the lil ZC isnt going to pull much numbers at all. Either turbo it - or spend the cash on response/handling mods :) Lightweight flywheel , new HD clutch and reduce the most logical weight you can and make that lil car feel nice and fast atleast in the corners . Dotn forget decent suspension/swaybars/tyres/wheels !

fwiw, it is a v.cool little build up (IMO as always). sounded great and the motor had that character that you can only get with a built NA motor. it's just that the bang for buck isn't quite there.

its hard reading on these forums, cos u get ppl jumping on saying 'a d-series wit only mild mods will smash a b16' and then the next ppl that come on go on bout how they got nothin and its not worth trying to get performance out of them... hmm....

nic

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Originally Posted by cdpfxz

its hard reading on these forums, cos u get ppl jumping on saying 'a d-series wit only mild mods will smash a b16' and then the next ppl that come on go on bout how they got nothin and its not worth trying to get performance out of them... hmm....

nic

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its because of people have opinons based on either experience or what they have read etc. So , take everything you read here and on the internet in general , with a grain of salt :cool:

BTW its the driver NOT the car - i have "smashed" a few b16a's with my stock d16a8. Who cares tho :rolleyes:? This thread is about bang for buck mods ! And frankly our old engine isnt the winner.

I used to drive a ZC crx and they are pretty good engines very good at low end.

Now i have an SiR CRX and im finding it a more fuller engine.. its powerful all the way through the range. and that little bit more at vtec.. I myself havent decided which way to go N.A or FI.. I am just working on handling atm.. suspension (coilovers), front n rear strut bars, lower front n rear tie bars.. and buying sway bars eventually.. did someone say go-kart handling...

In the end its the experience you are after that will determine which way you go..

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Originally Posted by cdpfxz

its hard reading on these forums, cos u get ppl jumping on saying 'a d-series wit only mild mods will smash a b16' and then the next ppl that come on go on bout how they got nothin and its not worth trying to get performance out of them... hmm....

nic

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welcome to the 'net ;)

well ive got a d series engin ... and most ppl on here would encourage you to "engin swap" i know i would rather work on what i have ... cause its more fun, u learn from it and also you can see what you achive too... so why not encourage people to work on their engins and leave the transplants as a choice :)