would running a turbo on stock internals safe?

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Originally Posted by saxman

On greddy's site, I only saw a few kits... the d16z6 one, which comes with an fmu, the d16y8, b16a, b18b, and b18c kits which all come with the 310cc injectors.


I would run the d16y8 kit personally. It's basically the same as the d16z6 kit only comes with the injectors and the 16g turbo instead of the 14b which is preferable.


Either way, I'd ditch the 310cc injectors and the emanage for some 440s and some real fuel management.

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Hay saxman

Yea I was going Hondata or PRO-ECU and selling e-crap on ebat :p to offset the cost

I also so was gong 440cc but may not be able to afford em for a wile so I'll have to run 3100CC for a little wile

Also the price diff between the two kits D16Z6 & D16Y8 is about $500 US

So I'm sure if I when the D16Z6 and saved $500 US I could buy a better turbo that comes with the D16Y8 kit for $500 US?

Is that only only diff between tht two kits?

Thx Heaps Luke

speak to ONLINE performance bro with the hondas they built i only trust them they are doing my turbo conversion next week sumtime,my mate turbocharged his stock everything b16a with t28 andhis fukd up his head already with only 6psi of boost

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Originally Posted by 2MPRSS

speak to ONLINE performance bro with the hondas they built i only trust them they are doing my turbo conversion next week sumtime,my mate turbocharged his stock everything b16a with t28 andhis fukd up his head already with only 6psi of boost

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Yellow Civic Omar?

Hm f**ked up the head with only 6psi of boost?

More than likely there was a problem there before he boosted or was not tuned properly

Even the top tunners (you know who I'm talking about) tell me my D16Y1 should be able to take 9 PSI on stock inters

I would think that a b16a would be even stronger?

i fogot to mention he does give it a fair bit it it was tuned with mmicrotech computer,his preety shitty now that he didnt do no internal work

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Originally Posted by 2MPRSS

i fogot to mention he does give it a fair bit it it was tuned with mmicrotech computer,his preety shitty now that he didnt do no internal work

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But at 6 PSI the shoulde't have to do anyway!!!

How much is a far bit?

Who tuned it?

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Originally Posted by Lukezen27

Hay saxman

Yea I was going Hondata or PRO-ECU and selling e-crap on ebat :p to offset the cost

I also so was gong 440cc but may not be able to afford em for a wile so I'll have to run 3100CC for a little wile

Also the price diff between the two kits D16Z6 & D16Y8 is about $500 US

So I'm sure if I when the D16Z6 and saved $500 US I could buy a better turbo that comes with the D16Y8 kit for $500 US?

Is that only only diff between tht two kits?

Thx Heaps Luke

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the main difference is the in the manifold and the turbo. the y8 kit positions the turbo slightly different for more clearance(as it's a larger turbo). It is possible to use the larger turbo on the z6 manifold, but it requires some trimming of some of the webbing on the block. The other main issue is that the greddy turbos aren't your typical 14b/16g's in that the flanges are slightly different, and finding another turbo that will bolt up without modification isn't very easy. I don't believe you can purchase just the turbo from the kits seperate either.


And yourfather... if you don't want to boost ont he highway, be light with the throttle. Even with the greddy 14b turbo on my car, I didn't have any trouble staying out of boost if I wanted to(turbo was very small and had very little lag).


And 2mprss... a bad tune, even at 6 psi, can very easily damage the head. Without any more info other than "he damaged the head" it's hard to even start to pretend that anyone has any idea what happened, but with a proper tune,their is absolutely no reason that 6 psi on a t28 would cause any damage.


And lukezen... it is impossible for someone to say how much boost a certain engine can take. It is FAR more reasonable to say how much hp it can take. An engine may be able to take 12 psi on a small turbo just fine, but 8 psi out of a much larger turbo would be more than it could handle.

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Originally Posted by saxman

the main difference is the in the manifold and the turbo. the y8 kit positions the turbo slightly different for more clearance(as it's a larger turbo). It is possible to use the larger turbo on the z6 manifold, but it requires some trimming of some of the webbing on the block. The other main issue is that the greddy turbos aren't your typical 14b/16g's in that the flanges are slightly different, and finding another turbo that will bolt up without modification isn't very easy. I don't believe you can purchase just the turbo from the kits seperate either.


And lukezen... it is impossible for someone to say how much boost a certain engine can take. It is FAR more reasonable to say how much hp it can take. An engine may be able to take 12 psi on a small turbo just fine, but 8 psi out of a much larger turbo would be more than it could handle.

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Thx for the into :thumbsup: I've been learning so much since I've decided to boost :)

So the extra $500 is Justified IYO? better manifold, bigger Turbo and far easier to upgrade the turbo down the track coze of flange size/position :thumbsup:

As for how much certain engine can take, 9 PSI is on my just Rebuilt D16Y1/D16Z6 and using a D16Y1/D16Z6 Greddy Kit and its stock turbo

The engine was rebuilt only using stock inters but anything worn was replaced and I've be running her in using this method
http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

Will the D16Y8 Greddy kit fit my D16Z6 without any modding needed?

Bit more space under the EG than the EK I would think?

I'm not aiming to break any records just a fun day driver with bit of a bit :D

Cheer's Luke

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Originally Posted by Lukezen27

Thx for the into :thumbsup: I've been learning so much since I've decided to boost :)

So the extra $500 is Justified IYO? better manifold, bigger Turbo and far easier to upgrade the turbo down the track coze of flange size/position :thumbsup:

As for how much certain engine can take, 9 PSI is on my just Rebuilt D16Y1/D16Z6 and using a D16Y1/D16Z6 Greddy Kit and its stock turbo

The engine was rebuilt only using stock inters but anything worn was replaced and I've be running her in using this method
http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

Will the D16Y8 Greddy kit fit my D16Z6 without any modding needed?

Bit more space under the EG than the EK I would think?

I'm not aiming to break any records just a fun day driver with bit of a bit :D

Cheer's Luke

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I think you misunderstood what I meant with the flange stuff. The greddy 14b and 16g turbos use the same flange. It's a really weird set up, that you're unlikely to find another turbo that will bolt up at all.

You shouldn't have any problem with 9 psi on stock internals... just be sure to get something larger than 310cc though... you're not going to be able to get much higher than the 5 psi or so the greddy kit is set up for on those injectors.

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Originally Posted by saxman

I think you misunderstood what I meant with the flange stuff. The greddy 14b and 16g turbos use the same flange. It's a really weird set up, that you're unlikely to find another turbo that will bolt up at all.

You shouldn't have any problem with 9 psi on stock internals... just be sure to get something larger than 310cc though... you're not going to be able to get much higher than the 5 psi or so the greddy kit is set up for on those injectors.

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Ok so going for D16Y8 in is the only option coze I won't be able to find a turbo to match and you might as well have the biggerst to start with that greedy offers

How about

Will the D16Y8 Greddy kit fit my D16Z6 without any modding needed?

Bit more space under the EG than the EK I would think?

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Originally Posted by Lukezen27

Ok so going for D16Y8 in is the only option coze I won't be able to find a turbo to match and you might as well have the biggerst to start with that greedy offers

How about

Will the D16Y8 Greddy kit fit my D16Z6 without any modding needed?

Bit more space under the EG than the EK I would think?

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the only problem I could see you running into would be with the charge pipes... but that is easy enough to fix



honestly though, I would be much much more inclined to go with the edelbrock kit than the greddy... it is FAR superior

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Originally Posted by saxman

the only problem I could see you running into would be with the charge pipes... but that is easy enough to fix



honestly though, I would be much much more inclined to go with the edelbrock kit than the greddy... it is FAR superior

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I would if I had that type of cash :D

its like twice the price and would cost so much to get it into OZ :(

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Originally Posted by Lukezen27

I would if I had that type of cash :D

its like twice the price and would cost so much to get it into OZ :(

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if money is such a concern, why are you looking at a premade kit anyway? they serve one purpose... to make the seller money