Ecu Chipping/socketing

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Originally Posted by tinkerbell

saxman - you seem to be always talking in relation to turbo apps.

but downunder, there are very few boosted honda's, with NA dominating...

can you confirm if your comments are equally attributable to NA apps. as they are to boosted setups?

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honestly, I think uberdata was pretty much developed with turbo applications in mind.

to really extract the power out of an n/a set up, I think a lot more dyno time would be applicable than with a mild tune on a turbo worried a little more with safety and reliability than peak power.

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Originally Posted by ProECU

So if I was to use uberdata and tune my car on road, what would the final cost be?
Andy - care to comment?

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well, lets put it this way, since I don't know what prices are down there

to tune on the road, I use:

a lap top computer that I'm borrowing from a friend... so I didn't pay for it

a techedge wideband that I purchased as the kit and assembled myself

a moates.net eprom burner

a moates.net uber1 kit for all the hardware

a modified nokia usb-tll convertor cable I got off ebay.com for like $5



I also have an inductive dyno set up that measure engine acceleration through ignition pulses... but I've only used that on a couple cars

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Originally Posted by saxman

to really extract the power out of an n/a set up, I think a lot more dyno time would be applicable than with a mild tune on a turbo worried a little more with safety and reliability than peak power.

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yeah, that makes sense, thanks for that... :thumbsup:

"I also have an inductive dyno set up that measure engine acceleration through ignition pulses... but I've only used that on a couple cars"

I have not heard or read of this before any links to look at ?
efren

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Originally Posted by epren

"I also have an inductive dyno set up that measure engine acceleration through ignition pulses... but I've only used that on a couple cars"

I have not heard or read of this before any links to look at ?
efren

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this is the first link that I came apon

http://www.microsmith.co.uk/rd/dyno.htm#what

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Originally Posted by saxman

honestly, I think uberdata was pretty much developed with turbo applications in mind.

to really extract the power out of an n/a set up, I think a lot more dyno time would be applicable than with a mild tune on a turbo worried a little more with safety and reliability than peak power.

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I can tell you first hand Blake did develop uberdata with boost in mind.
Blake developed the first public boost code for P72.
Basically hijacks the boost signal and scales it down to prevent the upper voltage limit from being breached.
Not entirely clever, as other routines use this modified map signal with undesired results...

He may have fixed it since then

Can the "experienced" road tuners detail the process they use to tune a car in the street?
More specific detail the better.

lol come on guys keep the crap to the spam forum :D
Next retaliation or stupid remark gets a black strike against ur name ;)



Otherwise , lets keep this discussion going !!!

Ok question - in comparison to say hondata , what exact "level" of tune can uberdata achieve ? (level = amoutn of tuneablitly/range etc etc etc thru a wideband)

Ben
simple answer to ur question is that it can do the same as the others to the point that the end user doesnt know the difference.

I disagree.

Hondata is very cleanly coded.
The freewares have things going on in the background that the end user will never know about and "could" ultimately compromise engine longevity.

As I have said numerous times... theres more to it than target a/f.

including both your opinons - "...to the point where the end user dosent know the difference..." refers to the tuning levels maskign those below and above ?
OR that higher levels of tune are attainable thru either , but are usually unseen to the hobbyist or entry level tuner ?

Also , i take it hondata (for example) is clean cut and there is NO chance of wrongly tuning or "comprimising engine longevity" ?


Surely, both programs are not entirely 100% fool-proof ?

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Originally Posted by ProECU

The freewares have things going on in the background that the end user will never know about and "could" ultimately compromise engine longevity.

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such as?

like a computer virus or something? or what? :confused: