JAZZ as a good base for modifications

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Originally Posted by Miss Chanel

Dammit :o
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Everyone, listen to Speeder, he knows his sh!t and i heard he's a very good driver :D

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HAHAHAHA, shut up you :p

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Originally Posted by Speeder

ofcause if you had unlimited source of capital, then you could make your Jazz take off into space, but maybe the S2k for example may cost less to shoot into space, rather then modifying a Jazz which might take more time and money for the same result. But again, this is IMO, still I think Jazz was designed not to be driven like sports cars, but hey when time moves on, people finds their own uses for things.

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lol
if compare to a s2k, drop a JDM K20A with DC5R brake will cost less than a s2k as they still go for $38k cheapest one and a Jazz with K20A is a beast.

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Originally Posted by Miss Chanel

A golf r32, audi rs3, alfa romeo 147gta, ep3 civic type-R....????

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i can only afford a Golf GTi which is not yet close to all that selection.......:(

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Originally Posted by TypeG

i can only afford a Golf GTi which is not yet close to all that selection.......:(

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Haha, don't worry neither can I lol, Miss Chanel is being an idiot :p j/k, those cars mentioned is what i call a super hatch, a boiling hatch, not a hot hatch.

Btw, an S2k was used jusr as an example of the bigger picture...

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Originally Posted by TypeG

for me, when you modified your hatch and people said your car is Hot, that's a Hot Hatch for me.

Again, i do not think it is a good base for a quick car BUT if u have the cash, it can be DONE. I would rather get a DC2R for that.

one question.... which car is a hot hatch to you?(a general question)

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well seriously.. im just looking for a car. Not to fuss about it being a performance car. Im driving a H22A powered accord atm with some sussy upgrades and it goes and handles pretty well. I was just asking if in any case in the future i may wanna upgrade the suspension setup on the jazz. But yeah Jazz is one of my "hot" hatches lol.

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Originally Posted by vividjazz

Wow an EM1. 22 to 25 year old 47kw 8 valve carburetor Civic. That's offically a vintage car (25 years old).

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Wrong. An EM1 is a 5 to 6 year old 118Kw 16 Valve DOHC VTEC Civic Vti-R Coupe.

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Originally Posted by KB

Wrong. An EM1 is a 5 to 6 year old 118Kw 16 Valve DOHC VTEC Civic Vti-R Coupe.

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i'm sure he knows what an EM1 is...... try to sense the tone of his 'voice'...... ;)

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Originally Posted by Maxx

no offence, for u 20k might sound a lot, but not me.
how much a shitty comm whore worth? 30k? ;)
S15 is 1 of the CHEAPEST sport car available, still cost twice of the jazz vti-s when it's new though
u are right, the s15 is a bad A-B so i bought a R34 4dr for this application

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so r we comparing who's got more money here? is it?

bring it on!!!!!!!!!

grow up would you..... no point showing off with your $$.... ok? nobody cares...

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Originally Posted by MRFIT

i'm sure he knows what an EM1 is...... try to sense the tone of his 'voice'...... ;)

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Ill give you tone of voice! "RAAAAAAAAAH"

hehehe..... take it easy..... i'm just kidding here......

So what makes the vtir civic so special? cant you buy it in a lamo sohc engine with drum brakes? So obviously honda just tweaked with the suspension and put a hotter engine in their. Obviously with their current engine range its not exactly possible with a jazz and c'mon as if people would buy a jazz with a factory k20a, i mean the pricing would be same as a dc5r

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Originally Posted by Speeder

Wow Mags, nice selections of super hatches ;) or is this the other guy :rolleyes:

Serious note, yeah things like the golf mk1 Gti, clio sp, ek9, ep3, 205gti, starlet GT, mazda Familiar, pulsar GTiR, even the good ol' swift gti....mate the list goes on, and thats the true definition of a hot hatch, something that moves relatively well, stops, handles good, and importantly gives great feedback to the driver, without burning your wallet on super cars. But ppl have different opinions and that is fine, its their opinion.

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well my mates got early 90's swift gti and my jazz does cain easily it so wheres that put my jazz?

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Originally Posted by MRFIT

so r we comparing who's got more money here? is it?

bring it on!!!!!!!!!

grow up would you..... no point showing off with your $$.... ok? nobody cares...

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who knows it might be financed

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Originally Posted by muli

well my mates got early 90's swift gti and my jazz does cain easily it so wheres that put my jazz?

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LOL, have you ever considered that in the early 90's that V8's were having trouble cracking 200kW at the engine? same thing can be said about the Swift GTi, when new in its era, it was an affordable car that was fun to drive. So what if your Jazz can caine one? when? where? how? you want a medal?? lol comparing an 90's hatch to a post 2000 hatch, I'd be embarrassed if I couldn't beat one with a decade of technology lol. I have driven both cars and the Swift although might not be refined it is a more pleasurable drive, while on the other hand Jazz is a very hairy car when pushed, more so then the Gti. You have to remmember that you cannot compare cars from different decade, they had different target market etc.
Ok lets go through my list of what makes a hot hatch:
1: Does a Jazz move relatively well? Well yes for a little car they are not bad at all.
2: Brakes are nothing out of the ordinary, does the job.
3: Does it handle? No
4: Driver involvment? No
5: Affordability, as said is completely subjective.

So in conclusion, Jazz IMO is not a hot hatch.

nickiipoohz
Jazz are very nice cars for daily commuting. If you want a car to do just that, then I'd go for the Honda Jazz or Toyota Yaris. Good luck.