Quest for more Power...

this is cracking me up......lol
Kris , im sure you know that getting a more efficiant turbo for your engine would help make you more power...... and your dyno sheet shows your boost dropping off... if you have aboost controller maybe that is causeing it.....if you could hold that 7.5 psi or maybe a lil more the power may just be there..... but ultimatly , your turbo is just not suited to your car.....but i can understand that cost is big factor.... if you are in sydney contact adrian from toda Aust. he will give you the low down. his number is P: 02 9605 3477.
he is no bullshit and i have no doubt in my mind that he can solve your quest for power.
And pro ecu , weq makes much more sence then you do :confused: ......where is the dyno sheet? :p

james

just for informative purposes, most of our dynos read about 84-88kws for stock b16as.

thanks superR, im goin down to online to have a talk with the guys there.

They rekon i should be around the 160 mark.
Will see what they think, seem like top blokes and look like they know what their doin.

PRO-ECU, if you wanna shut everyone up, just post a dyno graph, easy as that. Why argue and argue?

Thanks for the help guys.

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just for informative purposes, most of our dynos read about 84-88kws for stock b16as.

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yeah, inferior aparatus and users can do that... its a bitch isnt it

I dont know whats in the water you guys drink down south! but the amount of bitching that occurs!..

Everyone chill out,the topic starter asked a few questions concerning his "Honda" not a debat on "turbos"..

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I dont know whats in the water you guys drink down south! but the amount of bitching that occurs!..

Everyone chill out,the topic starter asked a few questions concerning his "Honda" not a debat on "turbos"..

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Sorry guys. I have been the main offender here. I stand my inital pre-bitch session statements. I think its decent power and there is nothing major lacking from your setup. Me and pro ecu have worked things out and i think my caparisions earlier can be viewed in a more positive light. maybe something to aspire too!

holy crap, this thread went to sh*t

lol but its funny

i thought i was gonna learn something but just made me more confused.... :confused:

yer , pro ecu will do that to people...... T3 ppppwwwwwh

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yeah, inferior aparatus and users can do that... its a bitch isnt it

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Evan,

If you could just get past the fact that the dyno (probably Dynopack) you use reads higher than the “Dyno Dynamics” units most others use...
This whole topic would have a lot less animosity in it.
For what it’s worth, piling crap on people isn’t the best way to go about winning friends & influencing people.
Most of these guys in this thread are simply recalling their own experiences.
They haven’t tuned the cars themselves & don’t actually know the answers to half the questions you pose to them.
Further, with the wide variety of set-ups & combinations that are out there. It is quite difficult to judge from afar whether or not there output is sufficient or not.
It may be fair comment to say they could get a little more out of their cars, but ranting & raving then putting them down doesn't achieve anything constructive.
Surely, if they are happy with how their car performs, that is worth something.

To put the shoe on the other foot…
Why is it (apart from on the net) not one of your hard tuned monster’s of horsepower have put down the numbers on the drag strip?
There doesn’t seem to be any mention of these cars in any magazines or online…

Also, when is this "famous on the internet" “Pro ECU” product going to be commercially available?
As a workshop owner, I can say it would be awesome to have a useful alternative available.
However, it’s not… Why is that?

Adrian

Adrian,

I actually appreciate your comments, however you've made certain assumptions and generalisations, firstly about equipment used, state of the industry in Adelaide, and valuing a product based on 1/4 mile times & BIG HP Numbers.

If anyone would know better, i'd assume it to be you, but I guess your affiliation to certain other products, and certain members of your distribution network, doesn't speak too highly of your evaluation capabilities. (not intended as a personal attack).

I also wonder and question your motivation in making such a post.

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If you could just get past the fact that the dyno (probably Dynopack) you use reads higher than the “Dyno Dynamics” units most others use...
This whole topic would have a lot less animosity in it.

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My tests have been repeated on a Dyno dynamics, and furthermore, the dyno owner/operator has had repeatability with a nearby Dyno Dynamics shop to within +/- 5% from the mainline. 85kw for a B16, come on now...
Ive tuned B16's on a DDynamics to 106kw.

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Further, with the wide variety of set-ups & combinations that are out there. It is quite difficult to judge from afar whether or not there output is sufficient or not.

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Originally Posted by TODA AU

It may be fair comment to say they could get a little more out of their cars, but ranting & raving then putting them down doesn't achieve anything constructive.

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That comprehension again....where & why do you people continue to misunderstand the world wide accepted language that is English? Where have I "put down" as you put it, the original thread poster. I've re-read this thread a few times now, and can only conclude that i've been trying to help this guy.
Take a look at his dyno plot...YOU of all people should notice straight away, the early dip in his curve, and the lack lustre top end...DO YOU NOT AGREE??

I have low tollerance to idiots who persist in jumping in and distorting the issue at hand. As an example, how would my dyno plot actually help this guy?
This type of argument is all fire & smoke, and is intentionally motivated to smear peoples credibility.

To rebut on your judging from a far comment, i disagree.
We are talking about STOCK motors, with turbo's whacked on the end.
There is no black art in comparing to other STOCK motors... not in my book.
Perhaps you're looking to confuse the issue to cash in on customers who dont have a solid grasp on mechanics.

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To put the shoe on the other foot…

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Why is it (apart from on the net) not one of your hard tuned monster’s of horsepower have put down the numbers on the drag strip?
There doesn’t seem to be any mention of these cars in any magazines or online…

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I guess my customers are not into drag racing, they are biased towards circuit racing. Last time I checked, hondas were purpose built track cars.
And I am not into shameless promotion. I dont advertise here, and dont advertise on the net. If you want to find me, I have an email address.
Why is the drag strip the be and end all? Is this how you measure / evaluate a product is it? If a customer chooses not to run the quarter, thats their choice. They paid for the car, they paid for the tune, they reserve the right to decide if they want to track or drag it, not me!

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Also, when is this "famous on the internet" “Pro ECU” product going to be commercially available?

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As a workshop owner, I can say it would be awesome to have a useful alternative available.
However, it’s not… Why is that?

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In summary,
from the outset, I stated two facts.
1. My car's output
2. Fact his car has more in it.

As far as the bickering goes, ask those who baited and fueled it for their motivation. They (and come to think of it, you also) haven't contributed anything of substance to this thread, yet, I am the one under scrutiny...
I have broad shoulders I can take it. Unlike you and others, Im not in the industry to make a living, my education serves me extremely well in my chosen profession.

ProECU will be available, when I am ready...Will you be a distributor...probably not, not with your current distribution network

...and since you've started this line of discussion, why is it that some of your customers continue to contact me for a second opinion on their cars poor performace?