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thank you.
now we can stop flaming, lol.
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*ding*
thank you.
now we can stop flaming, lol.
whao this is getting hot.
but i stand by sikcvc.
like i said trucks use it cos they have lousy or worn synchros, tink another forumer mentioned that
i know cos the trucks in my country suck and in order to get a truck license i had to learn to double declutch as it is a requirement for the driving test. i dun really tink the tester wants to see how fast i can throw the truck into the corner and rev matching and stuff
this is interesting n i will share my 2cents.
Double clutching:
main thing is for cars with worn synchros, or race cars with no synchros. so unless you are planning to drive a race car, theres really no need to practise this.
Heel (not heal) n toe:
when u are approaching a corner u have to slow down right? but if u use the brakes only theres no engine braking so the car is very unstable. n when u exit the corner, your revs wld have fallen as during the corner u were on the brake or on very little gas.
so u heel n toe, that is as u approach the corner, u brake, clutch in n downshift (foot still on brake) then with the HEEL of your right foot (TOE still on brake) depress the accelerator to match the rev to the lower gear ( cos at same speed when in 4th ur rev might be 3000rpm but in 3rd its like 5000 for eg) let go of the brake while still feathering the throttle n release the clutch.
this keeps ur engine on the boil while going thru the corner. it also prevent the car jerking if u just drop gear without matching the rev as that can seriously upset your car, esp in a [acronym:b699ccc94b="Front Wheel Drive"]FWD[/acronym:b699ccc94b] thru a corner.
just my 2cents
i thot there is engine brake whenever u release the accelerator??
there is, but there is significantly less engine braking when you're in 4th gear compared to 3rd right? the key is to not float thru the corner depending only on your brakes, but let the engine share in the braking role.
I double clutch all the time. Pointless for upshifting IMO. I do it on downshifts cos my synchros are a bit worn, and it also is better for your box and synchs in the long run. Double lcutching is also good prep for heel toeing which I have nearly fully mastered now. Too many people here think all this shit is important and "I am better than you cos I can do this that rev match blah blah blah". Truth is, until you put it into practice on the track or whatever in a race against another individual, what you say on the internet means shit. So most of you guys just need to chill.
lol with javed(was gonna say at but not laughing at you :P) so true... I've been a bit of a keyboard worrier on this topic but I'm more than happy for someone to come for a spin and fault my shifting technique. Matching the revs is the most important thing to remember with any shifting reguardless what your doing, up down round and round. If you dont rev match properly it'll be rough uneven and wont do any good for your box.
/last rant ever on this topic... if anyone wants to judge my driving PM me and I'll take you up the twisties.
lol, wasnt targeted at you mate, I know im not a perfect driver (very very far from it), yet I can double clutch. However as I assume you know, it is not something worth bragging about? Everyone can appreciate a driving technique, but claiming it isnt really the way to go. And to reply to that fast and the furious quote that somebody already notably ridiculed. Who double clutches in a drag race anyways? If you are gonna use the clutch at all, you definitely wouldnt be double cluthcing on a race that contains 100 percent of shifting up. I pissed myself at that line, everybody looked at me funny. :D
ever noticed that the really good drivers in the world are very modest about it. Does that mean that the people out there that say they are good/better than you etc are actually lousy drivers.
big deal, we can all use an accelerator and brake to drive fast but what worries me is when something goes wrong.
when i was 18 i used to think i was the worlds greatest driver, i look back on it and realise that being a good driver is not about how fast you can go through a roundabout or take a corner. being a good driver is knowing your cars limits, road conditions, your own ability and driving in such a way so you wont end up crashing.
Im older now and realise when i was 18 i could have easily been another statistic cos in reality i was an unexperienced testosterone driven young driver that was a danger danger to my self and other road users.
I still would like to do some driver training one day in controlled conditions.
/rant
If you want to have a winge because people dont mind being arrogant post it in another thread. Just because a driver states that they have aquired certain skills in a certain length of time, which may be more advanced or quicker than you could have, doesn't mean they they're poor driver/havn't honed other driving skills. But if you havn't noticed the subject is actually about "track" skills NOT road driving ability.
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mate i never said that any one is a poor driver, i was reflecting on my own driving abilities. i post what i like here cos im not the one whinging :lol:
hey guys
in my opinion, there are 2 ways of heel and toe
i was just wondering which one do most ppl dp
1) brake, clutch in and down shift while heel and toe-ing, clutch out
2) brake, clutch in, shift to N, clutch out, heel and toe, clutch in shift down, clutch out