Motor Magazine (September 07)

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Originally Posted by Jaso

Epica is only an Australian car because it wears a holden badge on the front of it. In all reality it is a Daewoo - not Australian.

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may be so but it doesnt change anything i've said, does it.

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Originally Posted by aaronng

From what I remember, if you crash at 100km/h into a solid concrete wall and your car's passenger cell survives, you still die from internal injury (this was from Top Gear's test of a Smart car into a concrete wall).

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Fifth Gear, actually. I think. :p

good explanation, by the way :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by tony1234

Yeah that figures,Motor mag seem to love anything Holden.As Eurodude said the koreans have improved but i wouldn't rush out and buy any of their cars just yet.Comparing the Euro with a Daewoo what a joke.:thumbdwn::thumbdwn:

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thats why I only spend my hard earned cash on top gear magazine from the UK. all brands, other than aston martin :cool:, are treated equally.

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Epica is only an Australian car because it wears a holden badge on the front of it. In all reality it is a Daewoo - not Australian.
may be so but it doesnt change anything i've said, does it.

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Well actually in the vast majority of cases Motor/Wheels don't favour Korean made Holden's. Maybe they favor the Australian ones because they are good, aren't they. :)

Give me a japanese made car over an Aust.made car anyday.(mind you they are improving):)

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Originally Posted by tony1234

Give me a japanese made car over an Aust.made car anyday.(mind you they are improving):)

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the australian makers did have a lot of help in the past from the japanese:
commodore/lexcen
camry/apollo
nova/corolla
astra/pulsar (remember the HSV SV1800 !! :eek:)

i find the fact that all this argument spawned from people being outraged that the euro dropped a single star rating quite humorous. there are multiple factors that could have caused this, not least of which it is an ageing design. the fact that is was rated at 5 stars in the first place should be seen as a massive achievement on its own.

then there was a whole lot of discussion about the epica which, if anyone has noticed, isnt rated at all (most likely due to its 'epically' crap performance figures).

now its just another jap/aust car debate...

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Originally Posted by Vinnie

i find the fact that all this argument spawned from people being outraged that the euro dropped a single star rating quite humorous. there are multiple factors that could have caused this, not least of which it is an ageing design. the fact that is was rated at 5 stars in the first place should be seen as a massive achievement on its own.

then there was a whole lot of discussion about the epica which, if anyone has noticed, isnt rated at all (most likely due to its 'epically' crap performance figures).

now its just another jap/aust car debate...

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I reckon it dropped 1 star because it doesn't offer curtain airbags across the range like what Mazda does with the Mazda6 now.

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Originally Posted by aaronng

I reckon it dropped 1 star because it doesn't offer curtain airbags across the range like what Mazda does with the Mazda6 now.

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Most likely explanation.Also it is an "older model".

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Originally Posted by aaronng

I reckon it dropped 1 star because it doesn't offer curtain airbags across the range like what Mazda does with the Mazda6 now.

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in europe all euros come with curtain airbags, and it still holds 5star rating there... so id say your explanation is correct

Motor magazine is in Europe?