Whiteline

Are all the whiteline swaybars faulty I just installed one on my CD5 accord.

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Originally Posted by e240

Those of you with an EG, who are using the thick Whiteline rear sway bars, do you use these with the heavy duty mounting kit in conjunction with a Tie Bar and still experience tearing?

Frankly, I've tracked a couple of times with the Whiteline kits and its been alright, but anyway, I've moved to a thinner sway bar to resolve some handling problems.

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the tiebar doesnt make a difference - From the amount of "subframe tear" ive seen , only 1 had no tiebar and the others had the tiebar.


Guys , the problem with this design is this - a basic description.


http://www.ozhonda.com/gallery/data/...dium/rough.jpg

The same amount of force is applied to the overall RED areas shown above. The difference is , the whiteline has a much more concentrated force applied to those 3 smaller holes while the ASR brace spreads the load upon a greater plane. Hence , it is a better and safer product.

Please , if anyone can add or correct me upon these issues feel free. But this is a basic description and fact :)

here is my own account and fair share of whiteline's product and it's quality:

whiteline sway bar + tie bar has been great when i put it on about a year ago after much trouble installing it (you can all ask benjaminn as i need to find stronger bolt then the original supplied 6 hardness bolt from whiteline).. i can' vouch them more, they had greatly improve my handling and i had my share of wakies experience for been the first auto civic to attend on ozhonda time day (not the best result but hey i've a go:D).. however about a week ago, i had suddenly heard alot of noice from the back of my car.. i though it's one of my suspension is in need of exchange but to my surpise here is what i find:
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/7...0208ep7.th.jpg

the left brack had basiclly snap off..

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/4...0209fl6.th.jpg

here is a closed up pic of the bracket snap off

lucky that my LCA mount did not break. the bolt however disappeared
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/8...0204vo6.th.jpg

another interesting thing is..this little errrrr...where the bolt goes are so poorly point weld that it snap off in this instance:
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/7...0210nt7.th.jpg

disappointment... i miss the strong and confidence when i turn corner at high speed but when i thing about what might happen to my car if my mount are snap and....yea you get the picture..
i am not trying to stir anything bad about the whiteline product.. i have numerous occations dealt with them (Wojtek from whiteline - his a nice guy but weird at times) and my front camber kit they provide are exceptional in quality...and exceptional hard to adjust hahaha
but letting you guys know what happen to mine and whether it's good or bad.. it's up to you to decide..

Another interesting fact is that this company use(d) lower rated tensile bolts than OEM spec - but is under higher working loads than OEM spec. (thicker swabar than OEM = more load correct?)

To be fair

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"that may have been the case some time ago, so it seems that we are stuck with this legacy. For the record, we now use high quality high tensile bolts, minimum Gr8.8, and up to Gr12.8 for the lower control arm bolts"

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthr...t=62204&page=5

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Originally Posted by thebob

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Lets try and keep this thread factual...

True that - lets reply with experiences and facts rather than a simple " this is crap or shite" guys.

This thread is about Whiteline , more exactly the quality and design of its mounting kits for aftermarket swaybars.

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Originally Posted by bennjamin

the tiebar doesnt make a difference - From the amount of "subframe tear" ive seen , only 1 had no tiebar and the others had the tiebar.


Guys , the problem with this design is this - a basic description.


The same amount of force is applied to the overall RED areas shown above. The difference is , the whiteline has a much more concentrated force applied to those 3 smaller holes while the ASR brace spreads the load upon a greater plane. Hence , it is a better and safer product.

Please , if anyone can add or correct me upon these issues feel free. But this is a basic description and fact :)

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Good description Ben. Something else to add is that the reinforcement at the back of the subframe is significantly less on the Whiteline kit than the ASR kit.

I think something very important to note here - in terms of driving feel both the whiteline kit and the ASR kit feel almost identical. For ek1 owners they are a huge upgrade from having no rear sway - as such handling is greatly improved. The Whiteline kit cant be faulted for improving handling. The issue is purely with the construction and design of the kit IMO.

So the problem with Whiteline here is not the swaybar, but the substandard reinforcement kit, right?

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Originally Posted by aaronng

So the problem with Whiteline here is not the swaybar, but the substandard reinforcement kit, right?

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As far as I understand it, yes. I have yet to have seen the bar itself actually break.

I don't understand why people don't just get the ASR reinforcement kit and use that with the whiteline swaybar.

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Originally Posted by aaronng

I don't understand why people don't just get the ASR reinforcement kit and use that with the whiteline swaybar.

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I got a feeling ti doesnt fit as the whiteline bar mounts further out.. could be wrong.. but someone actually tried it but had to use the whiteline ears, which defeated 0.5 of the ASR purpose...


Else you can do a DIY.. i did... DIY ASR... eheheheh $50:thumbsup: