dseries turbO vs ausdm b16a?

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30-04-2008, 10:16 AM
NightKids

Why are B16s so cheap in Sydney but so expensive in MELB? I just don't understand...
30-04-2008, 11:05 AM
iwantvtec

lol i can pick up a b16a in melb for 2 k =] i probably go with the b16a as this EG is my daily n i love her. And as i am student i cant afford things to go wrong. I mean at the end of the day its the case of RELIABITY vs BANG for buck. Like yer dseries turbo prob has potential to run 12's and stuff but to think of these cars wern't made to be boosted.

Oh yer LukeNz wtevr ur nick is lol sorry, ummm... are you doing any internals done to ur dseries? or is it safe to boost your dseries without any internals done? if so whats a nice safe amount boost u can run?

i was thinking 5psi?
30-04-2008, 11:08 AM
B147ch

just got quoted $3,380 shipped FTW "ramhorn" turbo kit for the d series.
would also need the hondata, injectors and fuel pump.
what u think peeps?
30-04-2008, 11:11 AM
iwantvtec

Wait is the ramhorn a manifold specially made for dseries?
30-04-2008, 12:48 PM
Lukezen27

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantvtec

lol i can pick up a b16a in melb for 2 k =] i probably go with the b16a as this EG is my daily n i love her. And as i am student i cant afford things to go wrong. I mean at the end of the day its the case of RELIABITY vs BANG for buck. Like yer dseries turbo prob has potential to run 12's and stuff but to think of these cars wern't made to be boosted.

Oh yer LukeNz wtevr ur nick is lol sorry, ummm... are you doing any internals done to ur dseries? or is it safe to boost your dseries without any internals done? if so whats a nice safe amount boost u can run?

i was thinking 5psi?

Na stock standard insides :)

Yeah they safe to about 10pis
30-04-2008, 12:52 PM
Lukezen27

Quote:

Originally Posted by B147ch

just got quoted $3,380 shipped FTW "ramhorn" turbo kit for the d series.
would also need the hondata, injectors and fuel pump.
what u think peeps?

Don't you dare touch that shi_t
30-04-2008, 12:59 PM
VT1-R

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukezen27

Yeah I kooked it lol

160kw at the fly is what I'm running on close to stock exhaust..

173kw at the fly with 2.5" exhaust

Thats far more power than even a heavily moded B16?

erm... 160kw at the flywheel equates to roughly 25% lost at wheels.. so u are looking at 120kw at the wheels... I think you are using a rather high reading dyno.. a heavy modded b16 can hit 120kw as well bro.. Jus real gd I/h/e IM,TB, Cams package, port polish ECU+ tuning.. etc..

Its wrong to say far more power a turbo D has over a heavy modded b16.. its just a trade off between bottom torque and top end..

and any dyno sheets to prove ur claim?
30-04-2008, 01:02 PM
B147ch

Quote:

Originally Posted by VT1-R

erm... 160kw at the flywheel equates to roughly 25% lost at wheels.. so u are looking at 120kw at the wheels... I think you are using a rather high reading dyno.. a heavy modded b16 can hit 120kw as well bro.. Jus real gd I/h/e IM,TB, Cams package, port polish ECU+ tuning.. etc..

Its wrong to say far more power a turbo D has over a heavy modded b16.. its just a trade off between bottom torque and top end..

and any dyno sheets to prove ur claim?

heavily modded b16 is gonna cost an arm and a leg either way.
mate of mine worked his DC2 R non turbo but he was up for a shitload..
cost effective wise, im still gonna stick to a turbo d series..
30-04-2008, 01:03 PM
B147ch

u also cant calculate how much power is lost once it reaches the wheels..
30-04-2008, 01:11 PM
tommmoe

look, a b16 modded will be more reliable than a boosted d anyday!, plus this guy will drive it as his daily whats he after? little bit quicker d series turbo br0 or a nice b16 eg that wont give him headaches with engineering etc..
30-04-2008, 01:13 PM
dupac->

b16a ftw!
30-04-2008, 01:19 PM
Lukezen27

Quote:

Originally Posted by VT1-R

erm... 160kw at the flywheel equates to roughly 25% lost at wheels.. so u are looking at 120kw at the wheels... I think you are using a rather high reading dyno.. a heavy modded b16 can hit 120kw as well bro.. Jus real gd I/h/e IM,TB, Cams package, port polish ECU+ tuning.. etc..

Its wrong to say far more power a turbo D has over a heavy modded b16.. its just a trade off between bottom torque and top end..

and any dyno sheets to prove ur claim?

Nope mate 120kw ATW is normal for boosted D's

TODA dyno seems about right to me

Ask Adrain from TODA!!! and yes lots of sheets as I keep modding lol

Will scan in tonigh if needed

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