Tein SS vs Tein Flex

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Originally Posted by overl0ad

flex is softer spring rates and valved different to the mono.

all comes down to what you want. you want track then mono > flex > SS

you want street, it's the other way round.

it's like asking yourself "i have a ton of bricks to move, do i use a NSX or my ute?"

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Monoflex is sometimes softer than flex. That is the case for the Euro.

Monoflex's advantage is the monotube damper and micro valving, which lets the damper work at low speed. With Flex at low speed, the car just crashes down and bounces around after you go over a narrow metal speed bump.

hmmm i found it a bit different. at lower speeds my flex's work the best when im going crazy speeds around corners it feels so loose even with my preload and damping up hard... want to experiment with a harder spring though anyone want my 5th gen Lude flex springs if I sell em? lol

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Originally Posted by Mitchman

hmmm i found it a bit different. at lower speeds my flex's work the best when im going crazy speeds around corners it feels so loose even with my preload and damping up hard... want to experiment with a harder spring though anyone want my 5th gen Lude flex springs if I sell em? lol

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Low speeds as in < 5km/h and going over a Bunnings metal speed bump.

If your car feels loose around the corners (likes to slide), then soften the dampers!

low speeds as in under 80kph. damping was set to half way and dove realy hard. I need to brace the front end more before doing anything drastic, Im not sure if its just flex in the chassis but it feels like it lifts abit at speed. . . hard to explain but steering becomes much harder to keep the car stable during the corner. it is a fat lude tho which doesnt help.

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Originally Posted by Mitchman

low speeds as in under 80kph. damping was set to half way and dove realy hard. I need to brace the front end more before doing anything drastic, Im not sure if its just flex in the chassis but it feels like it lifts abit at speed. . . hard to explain but steering becomes much harder to keep the car stable during the corner. it is a fat lude tho which doesnt help.

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Under 80, flex and monoflex's damper should be similar. Maybe you really do need stiffer springs. What are your alignment settings?

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Originally Posted by aaronng

Set your preload based on the preload in the installation manual. It tells you to measure the height of the lower perch and set it to factory spec, and then after that you adjust height based on the lower mount.

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that would be all good if my monoflex manual had any engrish in it

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Originally Posted by ek4-guy

that would be all good if my monoflex manual had any engrish in it

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Look in the manual. There should be a diagram of the damper and various height measurements and numbers. The numbers should be universal, doesn't matter if it is engrish, japlish or Swahili... you should be able to read the numbers.

Anyway, the EM1 kit might fit EK4, since I do see pics of an EK9 in the EM1 section. So try using this manual: http://www.tein.com/tech_info/inst/gfh98u.pdf

My mono flex are ek9 ones, I do see the numbers now but i just left them how they come from the factory as the springs where just captured snugly.

I did measure from the tops plate to the adjusting nut and they where the same. Then i measured from that spring capture nut to the height adjustment nut made them all the same installed them and the car sits dead flat

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Originally Posted by ek4-guy

My mono flex are ek9 ones, I do see the numbers now but i just left them how they come from the factory as the springs where just captured snugly.

I did measure from the tops plate to the adjusting nut and they where the same. Then i measured from that spring capture nut to the height adjustment nut made them all the same installed them and the car sits dead flat

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Did you check your monoflex that measurement A in the manual, the height from the lower spring perch to the lower mount is 159mm for the front and 205mm for the rear? Sometimes the assembly worker might be cross-eyed.... If you did, then your preload should be correct.

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Originally Posted by shebangs

Tein SS don't have height travel adjustment which means when you lower Tein SS you're losing shock travel. I forgot the actual term to use here. This is the only reason I won't consider SS. Are MonoFlex THAT harsh? I can't imagine they are unbearable on lowest setting.

Buddy Club Race Spec is harsh, but they have bad reviews on ht, so I think I'll staying away. Cusco Zero2 is always good and probably gonna be my best choice.

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Yes, I understand that lowering the SS affects shock travel and the Monoflex doesnt. Well, for me, sometimes its fine, but most times it isnt. Its very crashy even though I have it on the softest level. It was a nightmare when I had the damper settings half way. I cant imagine full settings. :eek:

I've had SS before the mono and thought it was very good, The monos were just out of my expectations. I know theres heaps of opinions here but for those who like the Stock Type R suspension, then the SS is perfect as its more tighter and provides Type R comfort which is good for street use. I dont know about the SS on Prelude because its a heavier car and not braced up like Type Rs so its always going to be more sway.

flex + swaybars + rose jointed endlinks + rose jointed steering busings + lower arms bars + AWD = makes the car feel invincible around corners.

jajajajajajaaa!!!!

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Originally Posted by overl0ad

flex + swaybars + rose jointed endlinks + rose jointed steering busings + lower arms bars + AWD = makes the car feel invincible around corners.

jajajajajajaaa!!!!

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so I assume your talking about an EVO or STI? GTR?