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that is wat i had in mind as well selling my d series just motor and box and getting a b18c just using my turbo and ecu setup just buy a manifold and retune wat kind of power figues would i make anyone hav a ruff idea? and wats a good wat to set the turbo up hi or low mounted and which is a good manifold?Quote:
Originally Posted by tekung89
seriously go log manifold, no joke it will save u a headache. its hard to say wat power ur gona make but there is a C7 motor with 200kw atw on this forum, i know 2 b16a's who got roughly 140-160kwatw. and pretty much thats a stock motor.
wats a log manifold?
[QUOTE=andy9999;1869939]yeh thats true i just want to go b series. putting set up for sale soon
wats ur motor had done to it and wat kind of power you making?[/QUOTE.]
Some people may disagree with me and think i am biased. however...
Going a Bseries from what you have now could be alot more expensive and complicated then you expect. I honestly believe put some money into the head of the car and it will solve all your problems. There are plenty of SOHC vtec civics NA that have headwork that have similar midrange and torque as a Dohc.
If money is not a problem and its a simple case of (the more it costs means the longer it will take me to save). Then sure go the B18cr and boost it. It is by FAR a superior platform. But many people only budget for INITIAL setup costs, which imo is wrong... there are two kinds of costs. SETUP & MAINTENANCE. And you can be sure you will be paying higher maintenace costs if you do the swap. It will be harder for you to find replacement parts and you will pay more for them. EG D16 gearbox = $200, B18cr Gearbox = $1000 (aprox figs).. and same goes for anything you will need to replace.
Sure... some may say. "but he will make more power". But there comes a point where POWER does not = increased performance (in terms of 1/4 ETs.)
Do some more research man, proper unbiased research. HONDATECH, Dseries.org etc etc. Dont start throwing money around based on what a few people on ozhonda reccon. Dont fork out 10k for a b18cr conversion just because "you want a Bseries"... or Bseries is "Cooler" or more socially exceptable on ozhonda.
Thanks man. Love the car. keep me updated. add me on msn!
yeh one thing i did like about the D is that, i never had to worry about buying parts if they motor actually failed. plenty of it around and they go for soo cheap. i cant see why ur motor right now cant hit 140kw lol i know one fella who did it
he already said his current setup is tuned at 141kw
yeah d series parts are cheap but still a hassle to replace when they break...
but from owning a dseries turbo to b series turbo
the B is sooooOOOOoooo much more fun to drive... when vtec kicks in on the B its like a whole different motor lol... then again i probably just like it cause the wheels start spinning.... hoon LMAO
both stock motors
both gt28 turbos for got what size rear...
log manifold on the D
ram horn manifold on the B
apart from that 40-50kw difference atw lol
wat are the price figures on b18c2 vtir half cuts? and anyone no how much i can sell my motor for? without the turbo set with stock ecu and airbox p/s and a/c
$300ish?
These are the costs i see. Could you update your first post with the current specs of your setup?
Work the D16.
Complete top of the range head work. $2000.00
*Service, Port & polish, Valve job, valve train (springs & retainers), Cam + camshaft.
*Skunk2 intake manifold + larger Throttle body $750.00
* ARP head studs - $250.00
Retune - $1000.00
Max total - $4000
Drop in a b18c2
Sell the d16 - $500 - $1000
Buy a b18c2 Half cut - $6000
Extras - Injectors, Engine mounts, clutch, turbo manifold, modify charge pipeing - $2500
Labour - $2000
Retune - $1000
Max total - $10000.00
These costs are generally aproximate, but anyone feel free to argu them.
10k? u could buy a vtir teg with that kind of money
PLUS...!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sexc86
condition of a B18 will be unknown... unless your buying it off a trusted person