cheers aaronng, are you a honda dealer or something you seem to be very knowledgeable hehe
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cheers aaronng, are you a honda dealer or something you seem to be very knowledgeable hehe
Nope, I'm no dealer. I'm just a Honda owner with a list of possible problems on the Euro. And trust me, you don't want your A/C compressor failing or the centre console lights going off when you are out of warranty. For both these problems, they have to replace the entire unit and will cost over $1000.Quote:
Originally Posted by eccentric
Surely u could fix it yourself, its probably just a loose connection or dry soldering joint ftw.Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
yeah, but it's INSIDE the unit. No way are you going to be disassembling the entire thing. Even the dealers can't disassemble it. That's why they replace the whole unit.Quote:
Originally Posted by EuroDude
Whoever wants to know anything about problems with the Euro.. I'm the man coz my Euro suffers from most of it!
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Originally Posted by aaronng
I take it the arrow pointing in the picture is the retractor spring??? That's what the dealer told me that they had to grease the retractor spring but somehow i can still feel and hear little bit of creaking.
Mine has started to creak as well. I spoke to my Honda Service man and they said that the master cylinder for the clutch needs to be replaced the part on my car has been superceeded with an update it is a known issue. They are fitting it next week.
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Originally Posted by Peekay34
Can u keep us updated on the "new" MC.... I hope they get it right this time....
ye mines getting replaced as well...duno when it will b done thouigh service said will giv a call hopefully asap
Sorry aarong did it feel like you had a plastic wrapper stuck on the sole of your shoe?
I know its a funny thought but work with me here!
Nope, it didn't feel nor sound like that. LOL. It's more like a funny pitched fart sound. LOL. It's the piston catching on the cylinder wall that makes the sound.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferrarista
Had my 20KM service done today they replaced the clutch master cylinder under warranty no issues and no noise anymore....:D :D
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Originally Posted by Peekay34
Was it with the updated MC?
Any changes to the part number?
Mine was replaces uber many times and still have the problem :(
Dont worry, the noise will come back in a few months :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Peekay34
Does it look exactly the same as the Master Cylinder in this pic?
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/4...utchfixxz1.jpg
Haha, I don't think it would be a master cylinder if it didn't look that that. All you are seeing is less than 1/2 of it in that pic. The other 1/2 is on the other side of the firewall. :p Even a master cylinder from a different brand would look like the one in that pic!Quote:
Originally Posted by EuroDude
^ true dat :p, although it might be a different colour or slightly different shape/design ftw.
Sometimes manufacturers put a small dot or mark on the part so mechs can determine if the part is the updated model. Not sure if Honda does that tho
jst got my car back 2day from dealers...creaking problem gone...master cyclinder replace...feels so great not having that irritating feel or sound =]]:D :thumbsup:
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Originally Posted by J-TODA
I felt the same way as you are now when I had mine replaced.... Lasted for only a few months before the problem came back in LOL!
hahhah geez man fanx for umm ruiniing my happineess Lol u get it replaced agn ?? or jst dealing wif it LolQuote:
Originally Posted by EuroAccord13
This is my third MC now and still have the problem.....
USA is supposedly getting a new master cylinder part number. :) Version 3. hehe
I pray i dont get this problem.Ive got 15k now.
Damnit, I've got the problem back again 900km later.. Oh well, I guess it will need to be replaced!
Since you are in Sydney, do join the Euro gathering.... :wave:Quote:
Originally Posted by eccentric
Hope the newer batch of Euro does not have this problem....Quote:
Originally Posted by tony1234
OMG!!
You guys won't believe what happened!! Well ever since the last post I've had the creaking clutch problem and yesterday out of nowhere the creak was gone! Even today!? It seems to have fixed itself up! haha.. is this a miracle or is something broken? It sounds too good to be true but yeah, the sound and the feeling of the creaking clutch seems to have completely disappeared!
Hooray for the Honda Gods! :P
eccentric, no it comes and goes depending on the humidy and temperature.
It'll come back when it rains ;)
Spray some silicone grease in the master cylinder asap.
I sprayed some in mine weeks ago and its been freakin sweet ever since
EuroDude, that could be true as the weather has been abit weird lately raining and sunny
ahhaha dont keep ur hopes up man....mine was like dat as well on and off...best to jst get it checked out and most likely replaced.....
I just reached 30,000k's and I'm suffering with.... you guessed it a creaky friggn clutch! Going to dealer on Wednesday next week
I guess they haven't fixed the problem. Will be lubing mine up again.
My Master Cylinder was replaced a month ago and so far the noise has gone completely. Hopefully they replaced it with a new revision ftw
My clutch has just had it's lube job (35000 klms) and get this... my alternator bearing also needed replacing. The dude said it was the first he has seen and they service a stack of Euros (I counted about a dozen when I dropped her off). The bearing started sounding like a jug boiling when it heated up.
All fixed under warranty. Thank you Mr Honda. :thumbsup:
I got really well looked after by the guys @ trivets, parramatta. They deserve a clap, coz they fixed it all in one day and did oil change. It was also pleasing to be able to hire a brand new Jazz VTI CVT off them for the day - wish more dealers offered that! After driving the jazz around, it made me realise just how much better my Euro is. Another thing that impresses me with these guys is their loyalty to the Honda and the wisdom they have built-up sticking to the one brand. The're full on specialists.
After picking my car up, I also noticed it grinded when shifting from 1st to 2nd a few times, but it's gone away now. The clutch feel like it biting better and has heaps more travel before engaging (back to normal).
my car had the master cylinder replaced once when it had around 5-6000kms on the clock. Now it reached 18000kms and the creaking noise is back....
gonna have to get it replaced again:thumbdwn:
can anyone explain where the master cylinder is located so i can spray some lube in there?
mmm.. just noticed something today, not so much a creaking clutch.
This time every time i depress the clutch, i get a loud squeek, never heard it before. It come from outside the car.
Will be getting 48000k service done soon. I'll let them know n see if it's related.
That's the clutch release fork bearing. Different issue to the creaking clutch pedal, but good luck. All I did for this problem is to lube the part that comes into contact with the slave cylinder with some high temp lithium grease. The bulk of the squeak comes from inside the gearbox, which I can't access from the outside.Quote:
Originally Posted by xiang
I now have 25k on my 06 Euro and no sign of the dreaded "creaking".
t1234 you should lube it anyway to avoid it. The 06 Euro has the same issue as previous years. The problem is once it dries up and starts creaking, it will never be the same again. Spray some silicon grease into the piston above the clutch pedal ftw
I only had a slight creak at about 12,000kms
Silicone spray fixed it and it is yet to come back :)
My creak is back... And on my third MC... Don't think I'll get it replaced under goodwill now since my warranty period is over...
^ If its a common issue and you can prove it (give them a link to this thread for example), they should cover it as goodwill.
Its an engineering fault Honda should have resolved by now.
Took your advise and sprayed it with some silicon spray 15 mins.ago..........thanks.:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by EuroDude
^ No worries, spray it once every few months and it should be fine :thumbsup:
good advice. When I got my third MC I sprayed it every now and then (before the creak) and it hasn't come back. Touch wood.
There are 3 supersessions for the euro clutch master cylinder the latest one should fix the problem part no. 46920S7AA03.
I've also resorted to using Lithium grease to rid the irritating creak LOL!
Hi Aaron,
Can you (or anyone else if they've already done it) please post the picture of where to grease the slave cylinder from accessing via the bonnet? I've done the the greasing of the hole behind the clutch pedal but can still hear the creaking inside the engine bay.
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by aaronng
^ the Slave MC should be attached to the gearbox, you need to pull back the rubber cover to access the piston, then spray into it.
It's just below the intake manifold. I greased the point where the slave cylinder makes contact with the clutch release fork. I didn't grease the piston itself.
Well, it's happened to me too now.
Creaking clutch pedal started about a month ago. The car was serviced yesterday, and they've ordered a new master cylinder... at just under 17000 km.
It's not the master cylinder's fault as someone with an 07 had the master cylinder replaced but the creak came back. I'm guessing it's the spring that is on the push rod inside the firewall cavity. Probably depends on the amount of grease they use when putting in the new master cylinder.
my clutch is also starting with the creaking towards the bottom and sometimes one click when releasing it, some days more than others. I think its been happening for a while but now that i've read this thread i've really started to notice.
What if both the master and slave cylinders were replaced? would that make a difference?
I've read through most of the posts and this really is a joke how many people are having the same issue, this really should be passed on to someone in honda that will actually do something about it.
There are 3 revisions of the master cylinder for this problem, but it is still not solved. Master cylinder is purchased from an external company. Honda doesn't make them.Quote:
Originally Posted by E_Honda
Hey guys,
Sorry to dig up an old thread but im currently looking for a new car and the euro (MT) is one in the short list atm. So i just have some questions regarding this clutch creak :
1) Is it a very obvious intrusive creak or one you notice only if you pay alot of attention to ?
2) Does this creak have any degrading effect on the actual performance of the clutch itself?
It seems like this problem reoccurs very often so i'd just like some feedback from the MT euro owners as you guys would know this problem best (since this problem would probably not happen during a test drive).
Thanks
It happens to most Hondas. For some reason, the supplier of the master cylinder hasn't revised the design sufficiently to fix it. The creak was already happening in the 90's with the Civics.
happens to me. but i cant hear it really once i've been driving for a few minutes. only when its cold do i hear it.
i've got it but it doesn't annoy me that much...
most of the time you've got music on or traffic is noisy enough not to be able to hear it.
From my experience, if it's there it's pretty obvious. It's not like you sit there wondering about it. I also could feel it quite distinctly -- as if something was sticking somewhere when you moved the pedal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shuyin
I read all about this, and I still bought the car -- and I'd still recommend the car to anyone.
At 42,000kms I have joined the Creaking Clutch Club. It is very annoying as you tend to feel it rather than hear it. I am about to call the dealer for a fix, thought I should read this thread first.
Welcome to the club (unfortunately). Any lube fix is only temporary... I'm on my 3rd master cylinder, the 1st lasted about 3-4 months, the 2nd lasted 12 months and now the 3rd one was installed with additional graphite grease to delay the creaking. Hopefully this one lasts much longer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adagio
Thanks Aaronng I wont to discontinue my membership. Told the service mgr. not to try a quick fix but to read this thread and anything Honda must have on the problem.
They are pretty nice and usually will replace the master cylinder after trying the lube fix first. If they do decide to replace the master cylinder, ask them to use graphite grease on the new one.
My Euro did the same thing and after several attempts to lubricate it (up to 40,00klms). The dealer finally istened to my complaints and replaced the master cylinder and it has been going strong for 3 years now with no creaking. Having said that I complained about a noisy clutch (which is a dry thrust washer) and they ignored me until it was out of warranty. I will never buy another car from them or get my car serviced there. It was with great pleasure that I bought another car from another dealer and then emailed my local dealer to tell them.
I'm on my third MC and I've given up hope... I'll just stick to regular lubrication now and then....
I've got 31k on my 06,no problems yet.It's a discrace that after 3 replacements that some of you find the problem reoccuring.What does Honda head office have to say??
I had my master cylinder replaced and after 2 weeks the creak came back. Took it back again and they said it was something wrong with the clutch pedal. So they replaced that and its been all good so far (4 months).
How old is your car?Quote:
Originally Posted by insanesam
Jan '05 with 42000km on itQuote:
Originally Posted by tony1234
At 42,000, yes me too, I took the Euro in for the Creaking Clutch syndrome along with a few quotes from this thread. They were aware of the malady and said it was a lot to do with a spring transmitting a vibration as it was extended along with a possible dry rod causing the feeling and noise as it was actuated. It amounted to a 10 minute fix, so they said. I left the car for 1/2 a day and when I picked it up they advised the dry rod was most of my problem. So this has been greased and all I can do is hope OR have it greased each service as a precaution?
Hopefully i'm wrong but this is only a temporary fix.I think you'll eventually need to have the clutch master cylinder replaced from what i've read here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adagio
I got my master cylinder replaced over 6 months ago, ever since then its been perfect. Which reminds me, I should regrease it so it doesnt dry up. Once it starts getting noisy, it wont be the same ever again. But then again, I think Honda installed a newer revision (redesigned) cylinder so it may be fine.
^^ Even the 3rd revision eventually creaks.
^ Hms better grease it up then, thx.
Mmmm,me too.Quote:
Originally Posted by EuroDude
Is food grade better than automotive grade silicone?
For car purposes, they are both the same. Food grade just uses non-toxic components and a lower bacterial count.Quote:
Originally Posted by ctn
Hi all, I understand that most of you get the cluth issue fixed at dealers. Does anyone fall into this problem but your car is not under warranty? In this case where did you get the problem fixed?
Also, is it true that the problem comes from the entire MC? I am just thinking if I replace with another one which is post 2004 model will the issue be completely solved? or i cannot because pre 2004 and post 2004 MC are different? what about an aftermarket MC?
Thanks
You can use post 04 or an aftermarket MC. Will the issue be completely solved? I'll let you know in 1 year's time.
lol. when was the last aftermarket MC you put in? and what brand? do you still have to grease the component regularly?