vtirs are great cars but ill choose a type r anyday if i had the extra money.
ricki_kalsi - the arm rest thing is gay ill trade my one for a type r one anyday.
Printable View
vtirs are great cars but ill choose a type r anyday if i had the extra money.
ricki_kalsi - the arm rest thing is gay ill trade my one for a type r one anyday.
Type R's in alot of ways are the "smarter" choice in terms of resale value and factory power. However, I think i would rather a VTi-R the price differance is just not worth it. I would rather spend similar money or a bit more on a S15 200SX.
In my opinion, if you have a VTi-R and you want to be able to out run a Type R, best thing you can think about is torque. A Type R only has around 2nm higher than a VTi-R. So Skunk2 Stage 1 cams, exhaust system, Intake Manifold, CAI and a remap. You will easily outrun a Type R in a straight line.
Even in handling, the Type R is still a factory car, so it still has to be ok for street driving. You could get better handling by spending the money left over on a nice set of Tein Coilovers and nice tires.
In some ways though, of course i'd rather own the R...just because of the fact it is a TYPE R.
might as well use the money to top up the budget and get a Type R.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sp00ny
Type R FTW!!
his point was that the VTiR would be faster...Quote:
Originally Posted by G_Vtec
hehe.. 8-10k car vs 21-25k car.
I'd rather the ITR, but if bfyb is going to factor into it, a vti-r with 10-15k worth of work to it is going to shit on a type-r from a great height, in pretty much any measure of performance.
i have owned both cars and from my opinion the type r is a much better car than a VTIR modded.
I endeavoured (spelling) to build up a vtir which i purchased for 8k to the same value as a ITR roughly 24k mainly to prove a point if u spent the same amount you could build something which is potentially better than a type R but more customised.....
This incl full respray, jdm front end, coilovers, type r interior, full exhaust and turbo setup.
As much as this car was fun to drive it was lacking something....doesnt feel as 'tight' as a type R. Not only that, end of the day with the amount of mods i had done to it, it was not a type r....
I recently acquired a dc2r and really enjoy driving it. Handling feels much more direct than my previous vtir. furthermore with simple mods the type r is much more fun....
just my 2c
i guess different people have different experiences?
maybe you were just unlucky, or didnt get good advice, or just chose the wrong parts?
You need to get the right bits for it... However, many moons ago, when my car was about 100k km younger, I'd done bolt-ons ecu + suspension. All up it was about 3k's worth of parts, and the car was great. In fact, after back to back driving against my mates ITR, i was very happy with the VTi-R.
This all ended when all the rubber parts shat themselves due to abuse and old age.
End of the day summation- the fundamentals are there for a very good, very similar package to the ITR. You will always be missing a couple of key components (thicker subframe, thinner front glass) but the rest of it all gets changed during the modification process.
I think the ideal package would be an ITR with a good header, good intake and good exhaust (quiet) along with a hondata/crome/pfc. Leave it like that and enjoy it. You maintain what is one of the best factory packages around and liberate a few extra kw, without destroying the character of the car
yeah there's nothin i can say
if your goin to get a intergra it's best of getin a type r
maybe you should try it out your self
It is worth considering also that a VTi-R for 8k is very cheap and well worn and will be a 93-95 model most likely, the chassis is at least 5 years older than an early 99 Type R.Quote:
Originally Posted by .::F[L]Y::.
An accurate comparison would be against a low km 98-99 VTi-R, which from my experience also feel tight with good suspension. I do realise the Type-R inherently has a stiffer chassis (edit: incl 98+ VTi-R see Tinkerbell's post #73) and overall will feel tighter anyway.:thumbsup:
If only more people had this philosophy :angel:Quote:
Originally Posted by ginganggooly