i wonder y ppl spend money buying the type R not the lesser vtir or gsi model..its only like 20kw different and some fancy recaros...not worth it dude...go DIY-ed gsi !
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i wonder y ppl spend money buying the type R not the lesser vtir or gsi model..its only like 20kw different and some fancy recaros...not worth it dude...go DIY-ed gsi !
I'm all keen for this. I'm going to be a fly on the way for this challenge
and dude, its not just 20kw and recaros that's the difference.....
i owned a type r and numerous hondas. im just trying to say the same shit as u dude
"its not just 20kw and recaros that's the difference....."
apply this to the intake-->off the shelf vs DIY
i tested and ran both DIY and brand name, and yes gains are negligible but once again
"its not just 20kw and recaros that's the difference....."
and yeah
tested and ran on
-dyno
-race track
-street
If "gains are negligible" then whats your point? What are you actually trying to say?
for a NA car, every small bit counts
im trying to say why are you buying a vtir instead of a vti or cxi . the power different is only like hmm? 15kw? ok make it 20?
the power gain is negligible BUT every changes count. thats my point.
not to mention the throttle respone of proper intake offers. u may get extar 3-5kw out of (for example) mugen intake compare to stock or DIY but hey! 3-5kw is alot for our tiny NA cars! im not sure bout you guys for i reckon 3-5kw/throttle respone for few hundred bucks.. well worth the money i say.
ps-ive done DIY on my civic b16a and type r b18c airbox. no gain but some bad AF ratio and respone. but hey! (again) u have 1 fully sick home made "CAI" and some angry induction noise<---makes me actually think the car goes faster until i hit the race track.
peace
the dyno test was done on a ITR if you had bothered to readQuote:
Originally Posted by VTEC16
no need to get bitter mate:).....i'm a post whore like you. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by ATSE
as for the rest ...well some just like to stick it up, yet most opinated ppl are telling you the true side of the coin- if they can come up half a page, there must be some info in there...again there are others that just want to put you on the dyno or the tracks...end of the day it not abt winning or losing for we all know shoot out give you a no to brag, tracking or on road has factor of driver and others....neither is abt what car you drive and what car you can beat, point is, you start throwing heaps money into the car, how can you justify the realiablility or like what tofu-r has mentioned how much can you put to the ground-useable power? maybe in short how much can you as the driver harness the power:)
maybe it time everyone see the agenda on the line...in simple BS...there are ppl in the forum that give infos(i have to conclude and say all info is good, regardless) however for some they have always end up more notoriously selling like they have to meet the months sales....remember if you pry open your engine and dump all the goodies....who is the happiest coz you have to be contented to fix all the glitch and the losses and relearn or retune the car.... i bet he is laffing to the bank now:)
dyno again is just a tool....unless you are that serious you might wanna go indulge into, nothing wrong with it, and again and again...bolts on will serve ur purpose well:)...it like saying that its superlative to say who is the best programmer in the world....
since we are all driving a street car, the best test is still on the street, op is rather exhausted now, let do RNP:)..nothing beats driving in the dark, the thrills and the sound of the nite- i reckon the skills is push to the limits in those condition:)
end of rant :D
my agenda is...maybe you shld try n-garage consulting i heard is good u know ;) - i sure the numerous platform of different cars has something which you can benchmark on, ....LMAO-- just kidding:)
This thread is getting outta hand, opinions are good but there is no need to poke each other.
Point taken, if you cant afford it then DIY, but if you can then better go for the off the shelf goodies as these parts are better than DIY. And it seems that we all agree on this, but there are some that cant justify spending heaps of cash on a system that offers minimal kWs.
1. if you can afford it and u reckon its worth every penny then -->> go brand name.
2. if you can afford it but dont think its worth the bucks then -->> DIY out of metal NOT PVC please!
3. if you cant afford it then -->> DIY out of metal.
4. And last but not lease, if you cant afford metal pipes then Do NOT DIY at all.
O.K guys so its settled, and if you guys want to prove your setup i think a head to head would be interesting. DIY vs Brand name.
so its a challenge eh?
haha for someone who loses 2+ times in a row to an integra GSi ..
what chance do u think u have against better cars ?
which gsi? unless you are talking of some lude? :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by tofu R