would running a turbo on stock internals safe?

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20-11-2005, 04:22 PM
2MPRSS

i recon save the extra money need to do internals,later on you will want more power...once you go turbo and see the diffrence u always want more
20-11-2005, 04:28 PM
Lukezen27

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Originally Posted by saxman

if money is such a concern, why are you looking at a premade kit anyway? they serve one purpose... to make the seller money

Well thats what I was going to get from the start but now that I've read and learned so much I think I could DIY but its still a big undertaking anyway

But at the same time maybe its safer to get a kit for my first turbo?111

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Originally Posted by 2MPRSS

i recon save the extra money need to do internals,later on you will want more power...once you go turbo and see the diffrence u always want more

I hear that Omar :p
20-11-2005, 04:31 PM
saxman

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Originally Posted by Lukezen27

Well thats what I was going to get from the start but now that I've read and learned so much I think I could DIY but its still a big undertaking anyway

But at the same time maybe its safer to get a kit for my first turbo?111

I hear that Omar :p

there's nothing magical about a kit. It's really a rather simple list of components that have to be put together. A diy set up with real fuel management is goign to be a whole hell of a lot safer than a kit with what they consider acceptable.
20-11-2005, 04:38 PM
Lukezen27

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Originally Posted by saxman

there's nothing magical about a kit. It's really a rather simple list of components that have to be put together. A diy set up with real fuel management is goign to be a whole hell of a lot safer than a kit with what they consider acceptable.

To someone who knows what the hell they are doing lol

Might start looking into it :thumbsup: tho I'm in OZ and its not like the US when I can buy something cheap and if its wrong try again czoe whatever I buy right or wrong its still going to cost heasps here :rolleyes:
20-11-2005, 05:05 PM
2MPRSS

how much power can u get out of the turbo kit u looking at buying???
20-11-2005, 05:07 PM
Lukezen27

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Originally Posted by 2MPRSS

how much power can u get out of the turbo kit u looking at buying???

Greddy kit for my D16Y1 with intercooler upgrade is good for 120KW @ the wheels or so I'm told
20-11-2005, 06:47 PM
integrity

no it should be fine running stock injectors ...
standard injectors can handle a certain amount of pressure until they go BANG...
but thats pushing standard injectors to bout 10 or more PSI ...
i will change injectors laster on but for now 7psi is fine until im over it ill do te rest...
ask V&E rigoli(syd) , MRT performance(syd) and AVO turboworld(melbourne) ...
runing that setup is fine if you not pushing it more then 7 psi for daily driving
22-11-2005, 05:26 PM
saxman

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Originally Posted by integrity

no it should be fine running stock injectors ...
standard injectors can handle a certain amount of pressure until they go BANG...
but thats pushing standard injectors to bout 10 or more PSI ...
i will change injectors laster on but for now 7psi is fine until im over it ill do te rest...
ask V&E rigoli(syd) , MRT performance(syd) and AVO turboworld(melbourne) ...
runing that setup is fine if you not pushing it more then 7 psi for daily driving

please explain to me how they're fine

I've listed many ways they aren't, and what it takes to get the proper fuel out of stock injectors. By telling people they are, you're just spreading misinformation without any back up to suggest why they might work.
22-11-2005, 08:55 PM
tinkerbell

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Originally Posted by saxman

please explain to me how they're fine

i would love to know too.

saying "ask workshop x about it" doesnt help...

integrity - are you running any engine managment? what fuel pump and regulator? what fuel pressure?
23-11-2005, 03:22 AM
yourfather

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Originally Posted by Lukezen27

To someone who knows what the hell they are doing lol

Might start looking into it :thumbsup: tho I'm in OZ and its not like the US when I can buy something cheap and if its wrong try again czoe whatever I buy right or wrong its still going to cost heasps here :rolleyes:

Just get someone who knows what they are doing i.e. your saxman's or your pro-ecu's or whoever, as long as they can walk the talk, to help you organise your own shopping list, pull out your visa debit card, and let your fingers do the buying.

they arent all here to make a buck outta you. so yeah, even DynoDave has been talking to me about my objectives, drop em a line, and maybe drop a slab of beer their way with all the money you will save buying it yourself.

they'll scratch your back if you'll scratch theirs ya know.
24-11-2005, 07:15 AM
integrity

in term of "they be fine" meaning running on 7 psi of boost until internals areput in should be ok to run for daily driving.
24-11-2005, 11:00 AM
saxman

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Originally Posted by integrity

in term of "they be fine" meaning running on 7 psi of boost until internals areput in should be ok to run for daily driving.

but it isn't, as in order to get the fueling needs required by the engine at 7 psi of boost, you have to raise the fuel pressure so significantly that you're putting the fueling system under huge stress and risking catastrophic injector failure that's going to take you engine out with it.

I hardly consider that "ok to run for daily driving."

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