Accord V6 with VCM still no beating Aurion's FC?

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Originally Posted by aaronng

It has VVTi, no lift. And fuel economy-wise VVTi on a DOHC engine is much better than i-VTEC on an SOHC engine. You should know why.

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According to redbook the Aurion has both VVTi and lift like the 2ZZ-GE in the Corolla Sportivo / Celica.

http://www.redbookasiapacific.com/au....php?id=378860

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Originally Posted by viper8548

According to redbook the Aurion has both VVTi and lift like the 2ZZ-GE in the Corolla Sportivo / Celica.

http://www.redbookasiapacific.com/au....php?id=378860

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Redbook is WRONG. Go straight to Toyota's website.

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Originally Posted by Toyota Australia website

Variable Valve Timing with intelligence (VVT-i)

Toyota engine system that provides continual variations of the intake valve timing to provide optimal valve timing for the full range of driving conditions. It improves driveability, performance and fuel efficiency, and reduces emissions. Dual VVT-i provides even greater improvement, by independently varying exhaust valve timing as well as intake timing.

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It only alters timing. Doesn't alter lift.

The ONLY Toyota engine with variable lift is the 2ZZ-GE.

Mr Ng is partially right. Lift is available on Toyota VVTL-i engines.

corolla sportivos a nice car...
LOL @ video.. your car is sparking? hahaha
i hear the stivo gearboxes are crap though, they drop you out of the optimum power range with every shift?

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Originally Posted by boleh

Depending on what you had for lunch, it's not always brown :zip:

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You should see a doctor.

Stock sportivos are like a regular corolla with a powerful engine. Soft suspension. Anyway, what does this have to do with the Euro? The Euro is a slowish car. We are talking about V6 VCM vs 2GR-FE here.

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Originally Posted by boleh

Mr Ng is partially right. Lift is available on Toyota VVTL-i engines.

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The only toyota VVTL-i engine is the 2ZZ-GE

would valve timing on the exhaust actually make a difference really?

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Originally Posted by aaronng

The only toyota VVTL-i engine is the 2ZZ-GE

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So it seems! You're right, Mr Ng.

I think the 2GR-FE is more superior to the honda. Achieving the same fuel economy without having such an "intelligent" feature (VCM) in the engine. Only if Toyota decides to put the 2GR-FSE in the aurion...

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Originally Posted by curik

I think the 2GR-FE is more superior to the honda. Achieving the same fuel economy without having such an "intelligent" feature (VCM) in the engine. Only if Toyota decides to put the 2GR-FSE in the aurion...

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It depends on the EPR testing conditions. You might find that the it is difficult to achieve the rated numbers on the Aurion but easier on the Accord V6 VCM (just speculating)

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Originally Posted by aaronng

It depends on the EPR testing conditions. You might find that the it is difficult to achieve the rated numbers on the Aurion but easier on the Accord V6 VCM (just speculating)

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Wheels Magazine has a similar speculation in the current issue. They think that the test for the fuel economy sticker is not one that shows up the benefits of the VCM.

Any new Accord V6 owners out there able to report on fuel economy as yet?