Uberdata is FREE you fool!Quote:
Originally Posted by LVNIT
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Uberdata is FREE you fool!Quote:
Originally Posted by LVNIT
why dont you read what he posted, he said you can get it RUNNING for $1200, ie $1200 will buy you the wideband, ECU, harness etcQuote:
Originally Posted by ProECU
asshats, $1200 will buy you 3X those items.
get a clue!
Uber: $FREE
Wideband $80 - not even needed if you hit the dyno & use theirs.
Harness $120.
ECU: $250-$300 for obd1.
But hey, spend $1200 anyway. It's not their money.
yeh sorry, i guess the "etc" should have been expanded to include everything as obviously you dont understand the meaning of it...
$80 wideband huh? Interesting, since that is roughly what the actual sensor costs, never mind the controller. Bear in mind most of these guys arent going to be putting one together themselves also
so you are paying $120 for a harness because you are OBD2, but you are using the ECU you have? And apparently we are the asshats and you are the ECU god!!
EDIT: haha edited just after i read it, it DID say "ECU use what you have, or $100 to chip"
If you want to get specific, you need an O2 wideband + controller for other ECU's also, so the cost is not specific to uberdata, crome or whatever you choose. Unless you talk motec etc and other high end solutions, then you're looking at over $2k.Quote:
Originally Posted by poid
ECU god, we'll obviously you're not one. And im glad you admit you're an asshat, because you are.
except that the reason to get a wideband and controller for Uberdata is to tune for yourself, people buying ECU's will get it tune by a professional on the dyno so they dont need one. As far as i know, there isnt a tuner that will tune Uber and hence the need.
Still dont see where you got $80 from :)
the difference is, i dont claim to be an ECU god
EDIT: once again edited after i posted...mate feel free to continue with the childish insults, it just makes YOU look bad
since you dont claim to be an ecu god, then by default you are admitting to not knowing what you're talking about. Contrary, its you that looks bad, commenting on a topic you clearly have no idea about.Quote:
Originally Posted by poid
The software is not rocket science, tuners can use it no problem. Most dyno operators are astute operators and have used more software than you have ever seen. Im sure they can adapt their skills to uberdata.
As for DIY tuning, how does one know if theyre making more power purely from an a/f ratio tune?
Furthermore, how would one tune timing without a dyno? Even further, how would one know if the tuning changes make more power? or even further still, how does a DIY tuner know if the timing changes arent detonating?
Answer these and you truely are the best, and I admit defeat.
Otherwise, crawl back under that rock you came from.
In any event, getting a "running" uberdata will not cost you $1200.
you will not need a wideband, hit the dyno and talk it over with the operator.
They can help you out more than you know.
point is, make an educated decision, based on the size of you wallet, needs & flexibility. Dont always listen to public opinion, take it at face value becuase there's a lot of misinformation and rubbish opinion floating on this forum.
I know both Blake (author of Uber) and John (author of crome) personally, and have had a hand in the testing and development in both these products.
I KNOW what i'm talking about, but it seems the popularity contest will rein supreme again.... unfortunately
My best advice to you barefootbonzai, if you're going harness+ecu, get a hondata. It's a reliable product. Have it tuned by someone decent, and you'll be a lot less stressed by DIY tuning and blown motors.
plus chip burner and chips guys. maybe a soldering iron, and misc parts.
damn i boughta wideband setup for 300usd shipped, and i thought that was a good deal.
obviously i have no idea, after all my car has only been running Uber for over a year now without issue and is coming up to 1 year boosted without issue. So i must obviously have no idea what i am doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by ProECU
Evan, you certainly have more knowledge than i about the software, as you have been "in it" longer. But your attitude is ****ing ridiculous. Dont assume that everyone else knows nothing about what they are talking about and that you have more knowledge than all others about everything.
most dont want to use software that they are not familiar with...its their reputation on the line if the software does something they are not expecting. If they are willing to learn, most people arent willing to pay for the extra hours of work involved in the tuner becoming familiar enough with the software to be willing to tune.Quote:
The software is not rocket science, tuners can use it no problem. Most dyno operators are astute operators and have used more software than you have ever seen. Im sure they can adapt their skills to uberdata.
You cant simply walk in and say "here is some software you have never seen before, tune my car" and be out of there in an hour
the DIY tuner is generally aiming at a safe tune, not going for the most power. If you follow the rules of thumb then you WILL have a safe tune that is not detonating. Of course it is different if the aim is to get the most power possible out of the setup...if this was the aim then the tuner would not be going DIY and would use a commercial product and have it tuned by a respected tunerQuote:
As for DIY tuning, how does one know if theyre making more power purely from an a/f ratio tune?
Furthermore, how would one tune timing without a dyno? Even further, how would one know if the tuning changes make more power? or even further still, how does a DIY tuner know if the timing changes arent detonating?
I dont claim to be "the best", never have...i'm just sick of the attitude you display on these forums and the sometimes misleading information you post on here. An example of which is the $80 widebandQuote:
Answer these and you truely are the best, and I admit defeat.
Otherwise, crawl back under that rock you came from.
this i agree 100% with if the poster doesnt have an interest in DIYQuote:
Originally Posted by ProECU
does it go hard or what.. feel alot quicker???