Synthetic Oil for Euro

I read the euro's servicing manual today for oil change intervals etc...

If your driving it hard/extreme conditions they actually recomend that you change it every 5000km.

I also had a look at when they replace the oil and oil filter. It's 10000km for oil as we all probably know but its 20,000km for the oil filter - we have a family friend that is a mechanic and he says its always better to change the filter over when the oil is changed.

Personally i've noticed the engine is noticably harsher and sluggish even when going beyond 4krpm it doesnt pull as hard as at used to at 3k rpm.

From now on I've decided to go with honda oil changing it and the oil filter every 5k km. It might be overkill but i'm hoping that by changing the oil and filter more reguralry I'll be able to get the car back into better form.

A sound plan?

I'm using the regular schedule, changing oil and filter every 10000km. The dealer recommended changing the filter as well, and all my previous cars had the filter changed at the same time the engine oil was changed.

interesting my dealer didnt change the filter at the 10,000km :confused::confused: no wonder the engine has felt progressively worse when revving out since...

If you are having your Euro serviced at a Honda dealer, changing the oil filter is part of the scheduled service & it should have been done. I would be asking why it was not done & get him to rectify the situation now. He would have charged you for changing it because it is part of the service time allowance & the service charge is based on how long the service takes to do. :thumbdwn:

thanks for the heads up Eurotony.

In the service scheduele though (as per the servicing manual) it says oil filter to be changed every 20,000km in normal driving conditions but because i dont like to baby the euro i'm insisting on both being hcanged every 5000km

The rule is whenever you are getting an oil change... Change the filter too..

Mr. Technical Director of Spoon also advised that the tranny oil be changed as well to keep the gears in top notch....

yea thats what i thought aswell - i even asked that they changed the oil filter and they were like "nah you dont need to". I guess being a bit younger the service department doesn't take me seriously? Kind of frustrating really.

Next time i'm in their im demanding that they do it.

I wouldn't have done any real damage by leaving the filter unchanged for so long i hope

Maybe the new Honda oil filters are meant to last longer thus saving some $$$$ but irregardless, I'll still change it at every oil change, I mean, how much more time can that take since I'm already under the car..

P.S-- For those who do their own intermediate services on their Euro, who's with me to agree that the oil filter location sucks!!!!! :D I hate the way they positioned the filter, oil always spill to the suspension links and shafts.... Grrrrr.... My tip is to wrap them up in some old rags...

sorry for bringing up this old thread, i just did my 20k service using mobil 1 10w-30, i noticed my mechanic pour in ALL 5 lt of it into the engine, sounds "weird" as i read somewhere accord euro only take 4.2 - 4.3lt, some even claim they only use 3.5 lt after a long drain.

while mine was only drain for like 10 minutes, and my mechanic say the oil pan he used to collect the oil from the engine has 5lt in it so he put the whole 5lt new oil back to the engine?

checking dipstick it shows just right below max line.

btw what is all those high vtec you guys talking about, i only have my car for like 3 weeks and never rev it over 4k does the high vtec you guys mention kick in like a turbo or some sort of things like that? how do i make it happen? thanks

petsfact - thanks for posting your question here - bringing back old threads is a good thing! Much better than having the same or similar question asked in many threads. That way the really good threads become a repository of information when people search - like a database.

Re oil - if your oil is on max there is nothing wrong.

As for your question about vtec - you need to rev the car beyond 6000rpm before the hicam kicks in. It is very smooth - nothing like a turbo. Give it a go - just make sure you clutch in before 7300rpm.

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Originally Posted by petsfact

sorry for bringing up this old thread, i just did my 20k service using mobil 1 10w-30, i noticed my mechanic pour in ALL 5 lt of it into the engine, sounds "weird" as i read somewhere accord euro only take 4.2 - 4.3lt, some even claim they only use 3.5 lt after a long drain.

while mine was only drain for like 10 minutes, and my mechanic say the oil pan he used to collect the oil from the engine has 5lt in it so he put the whole 5lt new oil back to the engine?

checking dipstick it shows just right below max line.

btw what is all those high vtec you guys talking about, i only have my car for like 3 weeks and never rev it over 4k does the high vtec you guys mention kick in like a turbo or some sort of things like that? how do i make it happen? thanks

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According to your mechanics excuse - the next time he drains it out its going to be 5L again and so he'll just put in another 5L! :eek:

Problably suggest re-checking the oil level again especially during the morning before you start the car - when all the oil is at one plce. If it is over-the-line you got to let some of it out again, otherwise you'll create too much oil pressure in the engine. If its still under the line then its fine!


The High Vtec on the Euro kicks in around 6000rpm. At around 5500-6000rpm there is a power dip, but once it goes over 6000rpm there is a slight kick in the back kind of like a turbo except it doesn't last as long.

Most Turbo equipped cars on the market like the Golf GTi/Audi A3 or Astra Turbo are in fact now smoother than the Euro's VTEC kick in. :D

Only 4000rpm :eek: Give the car a kick up to 7200rpm and you'll notice an aggressive rush at 6000rpm. Its fine to do it occasionally :)


If the oil filter was changed, then the engine would need a bit more oil. But 5L seems a bit too much. Maybe there was some left in the container?