spoon does not perform as well as toda. toda has been dyno provin time and time again to out shine the likes of spoon and mugen.
and jun i cbf taking any pictures :P
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spoon does not perform as well as toda. toda has been dyno provin time and time again to out shine the likes of spoon and mugen.
and jun i cbf taking any pictures :P
Well I think it all depends on you car set up and what you personaly like, I like my power in high rpm's, that is why I have 4-1 (Xforce) but one day when I have some spare $$$$ I will be getting spoon 4-1.
I've got JUN 4-2-1 and 2.5" exhaust all the way... The power difference is clearly noticeable from stock exhaust. To notice it it's probably 10% better? Throttle response is better and it's faster to wind up too. The car came with these extractors, so I don't know if I would have got JUN if I had a choice, but I don't feel any inclination to change.
i have xforce header . custom mod to collector from 2 inch to 2.5 inch , and 2.5 inch all the way back with hi flow cat .. pulls harder in mid to top range .... bottom feels smoother (not as jerky and hesitant) im not sure if it has lost or made power down low tho, but throttle response seems a bit better .
its always hard to tell with NA lolz
one thing is , i got a huge buzzing sound now , kinda like a rotary engine or something (obviously not as hardcore , but to give u an idea).....really tinny and metallic. any of you get this after header install ?
any1 know how gain you get by installing x-force header into d-series?
Short answer :pQuote:
Originally Posted by civicCXI
NO!!
No one's dyno's the x-force on B's or D's that I've seen and I've been look'n coze I have em on my D16Y1
x-force would be the best and easiest to find in the west. you could sourse out other types of headers but would be difficult. otherwise places over here just customise to suit your engine. im going x-force for my d-series. have heard good things from many others. thats my 2c :honda:Quote:
Originally Posted by civicCXI
I got a nice sound from my xforce, something simular to wrx boxer sound, I did a dyno run and got 139.1hp on wheels (on very low reading dyno)with those headers, cat-back and apexi air intake, I got told if I went to some other dynos in Perth I would get read out of around 150hp.
did you do a run before and after at the motorplex????
I'm getting a set of extractors fitted onto my EG Si next week along with 2" press bent system for around $700. We're using the orig cat.
I've sent the extractors to the ceramic coater, which cost me $250. The mild steel extractors are made by Mercury so nothing like X force in terms of quality and their stainless finish, but still much better than the stock header and plenty good enough for this standard D16 engine of mine. My exhaust guy cleaned up the rough bits with a die grinder prior to the ceramic coating.
He does sell X force headers as well and he is impressed with their fit and finish.
Will let you guys know how I go with my budget system in a week or 2 when it's fitted to my car.
Many others in this forum also say bad things (as in not worth it) about them. Dunno who to trust :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by crx88rb
Where did you get your xforce from? here in Perth?Quote:
Originally Posted by Malenic1981
Many ppl suggested toda header as the best header, but it's not worth getting it for d-series.
It was on the car when I got it, so wouldn't have idea where previous owner got them, but if you go to Xforce web site you can get their WA dealer phone number and get in contact.
No I did a run when I got the car, did 15s flat, my cat-back is nothing special, I think with better cat (and new tyres) I could go into high 14s.:)
TODA, SPOON ect are the best but that comes with good price tag