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xoom you beat a dc5r? i find that pretty hard to believe, dc5r bad driver? chip and intake only?? what sort of gains did you achieve?
i had a stock dc2r, i have also driven the corolla sportivo and not being biased or anything they did not even come close to being the same. the dc2r wouldve owned the sportivo,in a straight lined and even more on twisty's, and i dont mean only by a little bit. if i still had my itr i wouldnt mind being educated. only thing i can think of is your car must've had some impressive gains from intake and chip.
*note* im commenting on the itr vs sportivo, i have no first hand experience with ek4 so il leave that to you b16 boy's.
im not dissing the sportivo, i almost bought one, defineately well priced for a 14xkw? car, but no way a type r eater, or can be compared to a type r.
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omg xoom, english uses something called PARAGRAPHS. im not going to even bother reading that shit unless its done ina readable manner, we are honda ppl, intelligent not toyota ppl so please, some punctuation.
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Hahah this thread is just getting started.
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lol mo. yeah i can say i got owned by a couple of sportivos. they're pretty fast. more than what i expected anyway. but im having trouble believing they could match it wit the new itr. i'd have to see it to believe it. :shock: :evil:
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Well in actual fact...I will not believe that a sportivo can beat any ITR through TLGPs...
If it was at a drag strip...both cars driven with full interior/spare wheel/full tank of petrol etc etc...same driver down the quarter then I'd believe it if the sportivo beat the ITR there
Other than that I think this thread is going absolutely no where
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Ok lets get some punctuation into the post.
Yes SoundStreamer that is correct i beat an ITR. Coming from behind mind you. And if you read my post i have also sized up an s2000 as well. Yeah maybe he screwed up but like i said a race is car & driver.
The gains from my mods. Well lets just say when i saw my dyno graph & i have had it dyno'ed at a few places as i thought i was imagining and it was in shootout mode mind u i was very :shock: :shock:
I am yet to have the chance to run a DC2R off the lights. The older 1.8 type-r rite ? Did mingle with one in and out of traffic and we didnt seem to prove anything getting caught behind cars, catching up, passing one another etc so nothing learnt or taught. Yep they are an awesome piece of machinery, a friend had one a few years back. But the new type-r i think is quicker isnt it ? correct me if im wrong.
The new type-r is also a mean machine that to be honest with you is definitly built for the race track and i have no gripes with that, but on Aussie roads man thats one rough ride but if your into that then so be it.
Also i dont recall mentioning that i out handled a type-r that is NOT possible. The type-r's have been built to twist and turn in a way that put in few words is JUST AMAZING and from driving my friends one man that is one hell of a drive. I have seen 1 out handle a WRX. I say this because the WRX slid into the gutter and the type-r didnt. :twisted: :twisted:
My gripe is people who are of the impression that they own the is and end all of cars. I think some people need to look outside of their own little corners of the car world and see what else is out there.
I have and i give credit where credit is due. Can you honestly make the same statement ?
To be completly honest with you the satisfaction i get from beating a fellow 4 banger isnt that much as it doesnt really prove anything. I personally love to take it out on all those 6's & 8's that believe they own the roads. Tell me would you prefer passing a SS 5L (i have done and continue to hand out lessons in this department VL all the way through to VS, XR6's, normal falcons, XR8's the list goes on) or a 1.8L ?
The problem the integra's and honda's have is that everyone knows what they are and what they can do. The number of people that have under-estimated the sportivo, boy ive lost count. The number of people that have asked me the questions at the next set of lights after ive just blasted them "Thats not just a corolla is it ?" ive also lost count. Street sleeper :) :).
By all means enjoy your cars i know i do.
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man nice speech and i give ya credit for takin the time and explaining yourself although the fact that you say you've beaten the new itr and sized up an s2000 won't go down well with the people on here. remember it's a honda forum.
i had this same arguement with my friend. we are still argueing about it now and it is three months down the track. he said he beat an s2000 in his standard 1995 bluebird sss. i said he wasnt racing you but he had witnesses and the guy in the s2k chirped of the line. well like you said it all can come down to the driver and some people must obviously really suck.
all im trying to say is you gotta understand that your claims are gonna make the people on this forum pissed.
anyways congrats on ur victories but i am still one who must see to believe. although i am one to admit those rollas are fast and give the civics a good run and in my case a good floggin.
and i do enjoy my car. :D
Cheers buddy. ;)
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mo: don't you read previous posts?
i specifically said that a STOCK SPORTIVO vs a STOCK DC5R INTEGRA TYPE-R....will NOT beat it.
i specifically said that a Stock DC5R will beat a Stock Sportivo. Can i make this any clearer? Or are you still confused as to what i'm trying to say?
Xoom's Sportivo IS NOT stock.
Talk about tunnel vision!
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lol. we've definetely gathered the fact that xooms isn't stock. hence his claims of an itr and s2k scalp.
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No worries MR-VTEC. I mean no offense to anyone just trying to get some education into people to open up their options and not be so narrow about these things.
Hey i might run into 1 of you guys at a lights and u might b a better drive and pip me out or it might be vica versa.
But its all good. As long as your not a sore looser about it. Nothing worse than those abusive drive by's ive recieved after beating some1 fair and square.
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Oh, and about changing gears in the Sportivo and landing outside of the powerband.
This is where Driver Skill comes into play.
If you're a good enough driver and can quick shift quick enough, i mean quick enough! You can change at 8,200 rpm and land well about 6,000 rpm (where LIFT comes in) We've got video evidence of ppl doing the above from 1st gear to 2nd gera to 3rd gear.
That's why quite a few sportivo's lose, because the drivers can't change gears for crap! hahaha. But, once in the power band, wow! Do they move!
Had 2 runs with a WRX. he had a full car (driver+ 4 passengers) and i had myself and 2 passengers. Lights went green and being 4wd jumped straight infront of me. was a car length in front and from then to 200KM/HR he NEVER pulled away, but i didn't pull him in either. so i pretty much stayed with him!
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yeah i know how some people can be so narrow minded. PRIDE.
yeah we might soon hear about a traffic light showdown between you and someone else on here. i'm sure they're all lining up as we speak.lol
yep i know what ya mean there are some real dics out there that can't handle a beatin. specially the kind with a couple of more cylinders than us.lol.