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Originally Posted by aaronng
what youre saying amounts to it being magnetic, for the purpose of this argument. elements of it stick to metal...its magnetic.
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Originally Posted by aaronng
what youre saying amounts to it being magnetic, for the purpose of this argument. elements of it stick to metal...its magnetic.
lets not be pedantic :thumbdwn:
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Originally Posted by eurotrash
exactly...
Actually... It's electrostatic. You know, like how rubber balloons like to stick to wool when it is charged? Not magnetic. Being magnetic means it is a ferrous metal. And from the info from Magnatec's site, the esters are positively charged and cling to the negatively charged engine surfaces. If you charged yourself with electrons, magnatec will stick to you too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_will
If you deep a spoon into normal engine oil and leave it hanging in a enclosed environment. I'm sure it'll still be 'oily' after a few days? That light coat of oil is enough for an engine to start?
Yeah, electrostatic forces are quite weak but I think the properties would make that film slightly thicker and stay thick for over 1 day. But I would think that the "10" part of the viscosity rating also plays a big role in Magnatec's cold start capabilities.
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Originally Posted by aaronng
read carefully..."for the purpose of this argument" - stop being pedantic, it makes absolutely no difference to my argument whether its electrostatic or magnetic.its pretty stupid on the manufacturers part to call it magnatec when its not magnetic, if thats not misleading i dont know what is.
It's pretty important not to spread misinformation. If you are complaining of Magnatec's misleading name, then I would have expected you to be the last one to say that it was magnetic. This is a technical forum, and so we should be using the proper terms and not one that serves to give an easy but misleading explanation.
It's a brand name -- I would think that it's intended to make the average person think about the way it sticks. They could have called it "gluetec" and it still wouldn't be misleading. If they called it "clowntec", would you think it was made from real clowns?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_will
Unless there is a clear statement made (like "our oil is magnetic" when it isn't), there is no misleading going on in the name (as far as consumer laws go).
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Originally Posted by aaronng
as i have tried to explain to you - whether it is magnetic or electrostatic is completely irrelevant - all that matters is that it sticks to things. my argument was that it could be bad when changing oil because some of the old oil would remain in the engine. that argument did not rely on the distinction between magnetic and electrostatic, it relied on the oil sticking to things. yes, this is a technical forum, but picking apart other peoples arguments when theyre attempting to be helpful is just going to piss them off
Man i think 10-60 would shit up your engine unless you run enduro in 40 degree heat... or maybe regular country runs?
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Originally Posted by tknova
Stop arguing then if that is your view. I was actually interested that it was electrostatic. You contributed, he gave constructive criticism, we got the right answer. The end, unless ego is at stake.
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Originally Posted by Mr_will