Try and give someone advice on a proposed build and suggest somewhere to start with the good experience ive had with my engine and all the wankers come out with off topic rubbish as usual.
Starting from the top, ONLINE makes the perfect point in that an engine that makes good reliable power in street trim is an 11sec car and then gutted with abit of thought put into the chassis is a 9 sec car, going along with what ive said every post in this thread.
TAKEN, any machinist not willing to warrant his work isnt one worth going too and companies like Darton wouldnt be as big as they are now if there product couldnt be installed and reliable by any suitably tooled up machinist. Also what do you consider a "full race motor" one that runs nines?? Put a "Race Motor" in a un setup, under tyred, chassis with stock driveshafts, and you get a car that is not launched as hard as it could have been and spins down the track and pulls an 11 or so.
Pwr2w8 your spot on, money talks, and there arnt many big boys in this country, online have built the best chassis we've seen but they havnt exactly had impressive motors in either of their cars yet they have the records so good on them, they spent the money! It isnt rocket science but money, and if you've ever been to the states and been around any form of motorsports, its there unlike anything you've seen here, even touring cars.
Danny built MSTCHF 's motor and Hypertune did everything around it, its a very good set-up and well built motor that came from previous experience from Adrian @ Toda and Mark @ Hypertune, Danny got alot of info and advice from Adrian as he worked @ Croydon before going out on his own, you dont need a lab nor workshop to strap an engine together yet everyone goes on about "backyard" boys.
WEQ im far from a shop you peanut, nor have i ever been involved or worked in the car retail industry, though i have been in the scene for many years, consider myself having a decent amount mechanical knowledge coming from an aviation background.
I see you like assuming things or taking things the wrong way as you've quoted me as saying things i havnt.
I had my block sleeved near 3 years ago when not many had sleeved engine's ( Honda's that is ) and through a us contact had it done cheaper including freight then the cost of the sleeves themselves, so wouldnt i take advantage of such an offer??
As with anything in life, a job done for the first time is not going to be as good or as quick as if it is done repeatedly and one learns from what they are trying to do.
In this case being the honda block, we examined mine and small things were noted that were done different and made for an overall better job, maybe these steps are now included in the install instructions, i dont know, but no where did i say it was superior or a reason to only send your block to GE or Darton as it isnt, as Grumpy states, big HP motors of all types have had sleeves done here with no probs, and my next block would be done here without question and he has and makes the torque plates for any engine he machines, otherwise doesnt do it.
As for nut hugging an arrogent pr*ck, im not one to comment on your taste in men but im sure if like most normal people who want a service from someone, they enquire and if there not happy with the price,service ,or the individual they are dealing with, GO ELSEWHERE you wanker, its pretty simple!
The reason this shop isnt the quickest nor the cheapest is because he is good and has work hanging out his arse and a quality job is always maintained, but think it would still be cheaper then sending it to the states, but in saying that if there was ever a time to do so, its now given the exchange rate and read my post properly you twit, his budget will not cover ALL PARTS AND MACHINING as i posted!
Let alone what he has already listed in parts, but add to that machining,porting, fuel system, thermal management,intercooler,piping and exhaust and he'll soon be needing to add to that budget of his.
As for Australian parts in the scene, its not as easy for someone here to produce a worthwhile product and then be able to supply the demand of the states, most here are happy doing the work using parts available and the numbers and budgets are just not here to justify it so why would they, they'd have to invest so much money and time getting it to take off o.s and the capital isnt here like the U.S or Japan.
Mark and the crew at Hypertune are pumping out some good products,cars and there fabrication is A1, they have done and do all my work and i have and will recommend them to anyway looking for that service, ive known Mark for near 10yrs now as we were engineers together at Qantas, i believe they also did a small amount of work on your d series John?
Grumpy sums it up well with his last post and trust me, alot of racers over there running there stock sleeved, cast piston, 50psi d series in a 600-700kg frames also end up holding their balls when it shits after a few runs but they dont care, in the mean time fellow d series fans like yourself think there the coolest. :thumbsup:
Sexc86, the car you speak of is Mark @ Hypertunes civic, im sure he wont mind me stating but this engine with its power figures is a stock sleeved, non ported B16A and run that time with near no effort placed into the chassis with stock drivshafts and as far as weight reduction goes, they pulled the rear and passenger seats out. :confused: So id be confident that this engine in a light chassis would cut low 10's or 9's no problem, so seeing its stock sleeved and no porting, is it not now considered a race motor???
Ill finish by saying that Marks engine is at the same machinist now getting machining done for its freshen up :eek: so he must do something right.
I stand by people and services ive used and trust which is all i tried to do at the beginning.
Weq, you've come across as nothing but a wanker that loves what he does, so ill leave you to it.
EGB18CT, once again ill say do your homework, shop around and good luck with your build. :thumbsup:
