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Nothing is overkill when it comes to oil :) Just like we need clean water, our engines need nice 'clean' oil :)
Why is everyone refering to prices here. Yes, in most instances price is what determines quality, but just remember marketing plays a HUGE role in pricing, and the products' position within the market.
From what I found now, cheap mineral oils like Magnatec and even FEO last about 7000km with sedate city driving. After around 7000km my engine goes very rough. I have tried it twice and it always happens around 7000km. The midrange oils on the other hand like Edge 0w-40 and Motul 8100 don't go rough. But I do notice a loss of torque at high rpm, as if the oil was too thick, after going for a trackday and then another 3000km of street driving. So for me, the mid range oils are sufficient, eventhough I track my car. But, if your car budget allowed the use of high end oil, go for it by all means. I just get ticked off when ppl say to get 300V because the engine will feel more powerful. LOL. Thankfully, that hasn't happened in this thread yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sp00ny
Royal Purple > Motul ???
After reading the last few pages, would you even notice a difference using the mid to higher end oils if I'm currently changing my Honda FEO at every 5000km?
In a stock type S, daily driver with spirited driving here and there.
I doubt it. Supercheap is having Castrol Edge 5w-30 on sale at $29.95 now. Get a bottle to try out, I reckon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zakarados
I would personally say yes. But I guess it's a brand thing. Once a brand has been reliable and good to you, you won't go back or change to anything else. I trust it with my life now. Saying that, I have heard a bunch of people blowing engines using Royal Purple. But that's probably because they were pushing harder thinking their cars had royal purple and were invincible, similar to people that think stock Type R's are race cars and push their stock engines so sooo hard and blow them.Quote:
Originally Posted by l3vnd1
I don't think you'll notice much difference in different brands of oil in terms of performance if you change it often, but viscosities I find are extremely noticiable. The amount of engine response you lose from 10W-40 opposed to 5W-30 is amazing.
^^ And there are people saying Motul also fcks your engine up, in a previous engine oil thread. Then you have other people saying Castrol Edge is cheap crap shit and anything Castrol should be avoided. LOL. Then you have people like me who have tried Shell Helix Ultra and was unimpressed.
Have any of you done a single oil analysis in your life-time? Or are you basing your impressions on how 'smooth' the engine is? Or how quickly the oil goes black?
Not much real information in this thread, just marketing bullshit.
Nope, I haven't done any oil analysis. That's why I use whatever mid-range oil that is on discount. The flavour of the month for me is Edge 5w-30. It was previously Elf 5w-30 and then Motul 8100 5w-40 before that. I don't bother splitting hairs, my car does not have a highly tuned race engine anyway. :p
Also, if the oil turns black quickly, then I take that as a good oil. If I have oil that doesn't turn black, that means it is not cleaning the carbon deposits off the combustion chamber.
Just went to 2 motor shops around Kensington/Botany area - NO ROYAL PURPLE!
One had Motul V300 competition.
Are there any performance shops in the east?
So Ricky (VTEC MACHINE) you noticed an increase in response from 5 - 30w to 10 - 40w?
I have been running Edge 5 - 30w but will be changing to a 10w - 40w for a track day in December due to increased temperatures.
Will be considering running 10 - 40 from now on because my car has done 122K's.
Is it advisable for an older engine to run a thicker oil?
He meant 5w-30 has better response than 10w-40.Quote:
Originally Posted by l3vnd1
Are you having any problems with 5w-30? If not, then stick to it for street. As for the December trackday, no harm in trying. Why not go for Motul 8100 5w-40? It's pretty cheap at $65 before.
That's right Arron, what I meant was engine responds better to 5W-30 rather than 10W-40.
You can get Royal Purple from IS Motor Racing and a whole bunch of place around Artamon. It's recommended that you use thicker oils with more KM's. But saying that, if you aren't buring any oil, stick to 5W-30, and enjoy the response from a thinner oil while you can :D. I honesly reakon there could be a loss of anywhere up to a second at Wakefield using 10W-40 opposed to 5W-30.