Handling ability between a FTO and DC2R

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Originally Posted by Bludger

sperm, why are you being so critical about ppl going off topic?
I mean ppl join this forum to chat, debate and have fun........ i trhink you're spoilling it by being so strict.
I think that attitude will lose members. Lucky i'm not so peeved off by your rules but i guess some others might be. Sorry if i offended you. Just lettin you know what i feel.
BTW, arn't i so sexy in my sunnies :P

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We are merely adhering to the forums' T&C.

Want to chat? Chat about the topic. Otherwise, in the lounge.
Want to debate? Do so according to the topic. Othwerwise, start another topic.
Want to have fun? Log off and go lay on the grass in the park and breath some fresh air. :)

This is not personal Bludger, just explaining it to every curious minds.

:)

Back on topic


The R version of the FTO is limited correct?
But the GPx version is the more common top range FTO available in Australia, correct?

Me driven an FTO before too , jus don feel the kick i get with the DC2r in corners...

FTOs are too nose heavy - not nearly as quick as a DC2R and don't drive as nice

FTO's are supposed to be right next to Type R handling (not as good, but right next to them)
Type R is lighter so it might be quicker in a straight line.
In the end of the day I think a Type R is quicker anyway you look at it but not by a huge amount.
BUT, the FTO interior is MUCH nicer (minus Recaro seats) than a Type R, and the V6 is smooth, and the suspension is more comfortable, and it does have climate control, and that engine sound... and it revs so easily and blah blah

I think it just depends, if you want full out "track car" get Type R, but if you want something a bit slower but with creature comforts, get an FTO.

I wouldnt have thought a FTO could come close to a dc2R in handling...

If they do though......new found respect for them.. :)

The Version R is a Type competitor.

Over the normal GPX MIVEC model it comes with braces, stiffer springs/dampers/swaybars, Ralliart LSD, and weight reducted.

They are said to be the 2nd best handling FWD car, right after the Type R. It won Japanese car of the year in 94 when it was released, which was the 2nd time ever for a sports car to win that trophy.

Though don't worry, in Oz mostly you get auto's, some MIVEC some not. And VERY rarely if ever will you see the Version R.

Between the GPvR and TypeR there is nothing in it. It comes down to the driver.

With the money you save on a FTO, even a GPX, you could do it up to go faster and handle better than TypeR, yes you can get aftermarket LSD. Not only that, the FTO has much more comfortable seats for daily driving but enough support for racing. I guess the looks are subjective, but let the public speak for that, I see more people turn their heads for an FTO than an Integra.

Below is what I wrote in the FTOAustralia forum. But I think you guys are on the right track now...

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I know this is a comparison between the FTO and Integra, in their entire model range right?

ie.
FTO (GS, GR, GP, GPX, GPvR etc.)
Integra (GSi, VTiR, TypeR etc.)

Maybe the comparison should be TypeR vs GPvR (this is really what we are interested in aren't we?)

The biased people from ozhonda seem to misunderstand the comparison and are actually comapring TypeR to any FTO, not considering that there are at least 5 in the model range (with different engines) and that there are 4/5 speed auto transmissions as well. All up against the manual only TypeR which was race bred from the beginning. FTOs in general are more geared towards being a livable fun-to-drive street car. Mitsubishi's answer to the TypeR was the FTO GPvR.

Of course it is most likely for a TypeR owner to go up against an FTO on the streets and it could quite possibly be a GR, or very likely to be a GPX auto, and they will draw the conclusion that their TypeR is superior to an FTO (hey they are human after all).

So conversely, a Manual GPvR owner can rightly go up against a Integra GSi, or even a VTiR and blow it off the streets, and conclude that FTOs are better than Integras. But they won't do this, coz they know about the TypeR.

The difference here is that most Honda owners, actually the general population don't know much about FTOs and the model line-up/transmission choices.

Someone should point this out to OzHonda... or maybe I will cut and paste this there :)

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Originally Posted by G-1

I see more people turn their heads for an FTO than an Integra.

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LOL, but there left standing there wondering WTF that ugly POS was that just passed them....

oh, i guess from your point of view you like to look twice at ugly things.

as for me, i prefer not to... it's all subjective like i said :cool:

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Originally Posted by IRI

FTO-Drove a friends bout a year ago, doesnt go anywhere near as good as it looks like it should go..... (i'd compare it with a ford cougar)

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and you admitted before that it does LOOK good/fast, now you changed to ugly POS :p

Just stirring up the rivalry s'all:cool:

Honestly i dont mind the looks of FTO, i think one of the most unique and original designs around... but still prefer the teg;)

a year or so back, i saw it on a performance DVD with these two particular cars on a straight line. stock V stock with two professional drivers on the hand

the fto was side by side till around the 90km mark and after that, the type r just took off. the end result was 2 car lenghts or so
in terms of performance on the straight line, i dont think theres two much in between the two. although it doesnt give a definite answer to which is better of the two, one things for sure the straight line race was settled.