Honestly why a WRX, and not a SS V8. Why is it always used as a bench mark for other cars.
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Honestly why a WRX, and not a SS V8. Why is it always used as a bench mark for other cars.
^^^ true lol!!! however i'd choose a Ford XR6T over either of those anyday...
No offence at all to be taken from this mate but there is absolutely no way this is correct. Been in both and driven both - not even close sorry. There are also a million magazine reviews that all say the same..Quote:
Originally Posted by jooboo
"integra is more race car, more raw and more connected BUT the rex will get point to point quicker without working as hard and will win every aceleration test hands down"
I love the type r, i want to buy one next but if you want your car for acceleration only then a wrx is a far better proposition.
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Originally Posted by crx51
Actually the Type R DC2 or DC5 can beat a stock WRX (prior to MY03-MY06).
I drove these cars on numerous occasions and also dragged them a lot during my S15 days. The WRX is way over-hyped even if modded.
A stock Type R IS stronger than a stock WRX. Driving a WRX only 'feels' faster because it pulls a stronger G-Force during the mid-range, very short period from no boost to on-boost period from 3000-4500rpm range. Or from a rolling start with the AWD jump off the line it achieves nearly 1G for a short period. Whereas the Hondas have lower G-Force all the way but pulls more consistently. Its just area under the curve.
After that mid-range pull of the Rex, the gearing and the top end power of the Type Rs win very slightly. If you check the Top Speed of a DC2R on most circuits (say on MOTOR) it is also always faster than a stock WRX. AND, the trap speed of a Type R is also faster. Trap speed as in 0-400m mph.kph.
There was a motor magazine i once read and still have it lying around at home comparo against a DC2R and MY00. The WRX beat it everytime and was a better car all round.Quote:
Originally Posted by Omotesando
Type R are good for the Circuit. and it will beat a WRX Stock for stock.
In the end this a camparsion to apples to oranges. A modded WRX is a weapon and will put a smile that can't be wiped off even if your in the passenger seat or the driver.
can't really mod a Type R to and extent of a WRX or any turbo car for that matter EVO or STI or WRX with AWD. For the Type R to get the same power you would really have to Turbo charge it which really defeats the purpose of of N/A.
Anyway for the the Price when you compared a DC5 and WRX back then . It cost nearly 50g to put a Type R on the road compared to 40g for a WRX. 10g more for a car that can only really shine on track compared to a wrx which has shined on numerous occasion with ram raider.
I llike honda which is why I have one. But gotta be realistic and know when to draw the line.
Current HSV will give it to most of our cars but are big full guzzlers, it a choice of what makes you happy and what you can afford in the end.
When Wheels (or it could have been motor) first tested the s2000 they got 0-100 in 8.2 seconds. I still have that magazine! So don't believe everything you see in magazines. And which model WRX is the thread starter talking about - I have a magazine article that showed one manual WRX doing high 7 sec to 100kph (7.8sec? - 02 bug eye - can't remember?). Hardly earth shattering. There was some comment about the engine being tight, blah blah.Quote:
Originally Posted by crx51
I still come back to the question of what is rolling start. What gear, what starting speed - to what final speed? Do people remember that Top Gear test of the Evo (IX I think) against the basic econo box (citreon?) in top gear from 30mph? The econo box beat the Evo to the end of the runway. That is a rolling start too.
The ridiculous god like status the WRX has reached in Australia is amazing and seems to be unique to this country. People hear the word "WRX" and assume it will win any acceleration test regardless of gear, rolling start or otherwise. There are many unassuming cars out there that will shame WRXs in overtaking at freeway speeds (Saab Turbo comes to mind and plenty of Mercs). So lets keep things in perspective. Fantastic car off the line if you are happy to be mechanically unsympathetic - but definately not invincible in any gear at all speeds.
ps. good to see this thread liven up the Accord forum!
Thanks Rico - I have merged the old thread with the new. The "old" is more about standing start - the "new" (from post 60) is about rolling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rico
Remember that MY02 aka "bugeye" is the slowest WRX of all time, which is why it was so unpopular along with the hideous look.Quote:
Originally Posted by yfin
I've had two Honda cars. The first was Prelude Si VTEC and the second, the Euro (manual). The sheer power and acceleration in the WRX is earth shattering when compared to either vehicle. My friend who has had BA Falcon XR8 auto is sure it's faster than his XR8. Now, that's not a fact since it's just his impression, but it does give some guidance as to how quick the WRX is. Type-R has no chance against WRX at least from 0-100kph.
thing is the wrx is all based around the 0-100 hype and that was their marketing strategy and it worked...if anyone even bothered to actually drive a wrx over 100kph they would find a well sorted 4cyl or even a family v6 would keep up if not beat it..Quote:
Originally Posted by coladuna
HEY FELLAS WATCH THE VIDS ABOVE!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by hengis
i like this guy better to see with your won eyes rather than speculation
its simple the wrx is 14 sec car and the accord is a 15 sec car
it seems to me 14 is lower then 15 sec so the WRX is faster
all u guys sayin the h22a has a chance whats wrong with you? the h22a is slow as shit!
now put ur blouses back on and just accept the fact that turbo cars will always be better in a str8 line
Thanks
^^^um actually dno about the 04-06 wrx/stis but the highest factory spec that Subaru let out ON PAPER is 14.7 on 1/4mile.
i think what ppl here are failing to see are the minor mods.... a DC2r wont really beat one... but with a full exhaust it will... i have seen one time and time again... even the yellow R i saw on woodville road was shitting all over a CV8 Monaro an screeeeaaammed past me.
an H22A with I/H/E WILL beat a STOCK WRX.... a STOCK H22A WILL NOT!!!
A stock WRX usually puts 120-125kW at the wheels. I reckon the 4WD driveline saps quite a bit of power. From a standing start (0 km/h) the WRX is quick off the line. But if you are comparing rolling starts from say 30km/h, they might match each other in acceleration.