I don't know if anyone has mentioned it but lets also take into account that gearing plays a big role in keeping these peaky engines in their power band.
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I don't know if anyone has mentioned it but lets also take into account that gearing plays a big role in keeping these peaky engines in their power band.
What car is a B16A2 from? Civic coupe VTi-R?
To my understanding they only had 150nm and 118kw? This is the AUDM engine isn't it?
How many kw does a B16B have?
136kW (185PS)Quote:
Originally Posted by spetz
does that mean that the VTEC overpowers the MIVEC? Goddamn, ima sell my MIVEC powered lancer and go back to my honda VTEC
My MIVEC powered lancer does 150 kw, and has torque comparable to an H22A...
God damn! I don't even need to rev into MIVEC zone to beat B16A's :wave:
yeah that maybe so but you also have two extra cylinders and almost half a litre extra displacement:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by spetz
Ok MR VTEC I'll give you that one...
But I also have over 200kg extra weight over an EG hatch...
Are we talking about the engine now or the engine AND the car together ?
mivec is full of shit over rated. if u put the same amount of money time an effort into a vtec honda in comparison to mivec, it will hose a mivec hands down. I come from malaysia and both mitsubish and honda ar very popular. But with personal experience i think vtec is the way if ur in N/A four cyclinda.
I won't even begin to peruse all the responses thus far so please forgive any ignorance on my behalf if I've touched on a matter previously mentioned...common sense should dictate the replies these type of topics instigate on here...I adore my Honda to death but then again I pity those fools whom believe VTEC is all that and is the equivalent of N/A boost, it really does give us a bad name...I have no qualms with any manufacturer as they all have specific goals regarding what vehicles they produce whether its sports-oriented, family-directed, comfort, boosted or N/A...Honda's aim is to produce cars of quality and extracting maximum potential by staying naturally aspirated so to question or compare them to the turbo rides of other manufacturers would be plain naive...believe me, if Honda decided to tread the boosted path, other manufacturers would take note and a sense of nervousness would come over them...
If you get the better of my B16A2, you'd be doing very well mate...Quote:
Originally Posted by spetz
For someone who tries so hard to write so academically and present there post to such a high degree of perfection you contradict yourself nicely......Quote:
Originally Posted by CRX-Ando
you say that to compare a n/a car to a turbo car is naive, yet you take it upon yourself to say to spetz (whos car is n/a) that 'If you get the better of my B16A2, you'd be doing very well mate' when your car is in fact boosted.:rolleyes:
GOOD ONE:rolleyes: :thumbsup:
MIVEC is not overrated....epecially when you put MIVEC into the 4G63 engine (ala EvoIX) :D
Ohhhh yeah, MIVEC power :p