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My favourite V8 would have to be anything made by Ferrari....especially the F40 engine!
Apart from that one of my other faves is the upcoming Audi RS4 V8...4.2 litre with FSI putting out 310kw at 8250rpm with 430Nm of torque...BEAUTIFUL!
As for Holden V8s....nice engines really. There isn't the outright refinement of some of the euro or Jap V8s, but they do what they are built to do, and do it well! Drove a mates R8 clubsport recently and it kept me smiling
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Originally Posted by V8_Hero
nothing produced by holden is worthy of such a title.
perhaps the f430 engine? or the c55amg
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Originally Posted by [[d a n n y]]
i would very much like to see this "v8 twin turbo soarer". There is a v8 soarer, and a twin turbo (6 cylinder) soarer, but there isnt a v8 twin turbo.
and that aside, simply saying its the best without any justification is rather stupid. what sets it apart from any other 8? it puts out around 190kw...wow. it has 32 valves...wow. next. :thumbdwn:
shouldnt this thread be in the lounge?
I would say the New Audi RS4 Engine, Revs to 8250, produces 309 KW and its only a 4.2 LITRE
Even then, it wouldn't be the best, simply best bang 4 your buck...Quote:
Originally Posted by gnx1987
Which is what this thread has become, holden v8's are great value for money, but that is completly different to being the best...
its also one of the lightest.......but its not about that
its also one of the most used (plenty of development)...........but its not about that
its also one of the most powerful (stock and modded)............but its not about that
its one of the cheapest..................but again its not about that
its one of the most effective.............but its not about that
it can be made to run many fuel types...........but again its not about that
so WHAT IS IT ABOUT THEN............is it about brand? Probably!!
Getting back to the point of the discussion... no, I dont think the LS2 is anywhere near the best V8 in the world.... Sure it's cheap for a huge displacement engine but whilst most other engine manufacturers are reducing the capacity of their engines and still making more power out of them, Holden seems to be increasing the size to achieve the same.... all about costs... and I'm sure the amount of R&D that goes into a LS2 is no where near alot of other smaller V8s.
Wow 6L is huge capacity? Damn here I was thinking a 514 ford block or a 572 gm v8 was big...
**** v8's. Give me a 4 banger any day.
Again the displacement issue. FYI most manufacturers are actually increasing their displacement, the problem with OHC etc is that its very hard to increase displacement, OHV does not suffer from this problem to the same extent. As I said before displacement does not neccessarily mean bad L/100km, the LS series engine is actually very effecient.Quote:
Getting back to the point of the discussion... no, I dont think the LS2 is anywhere near the best V8 in the world.... Sure it's cheap for a huge displacement engine but whilst most other engine manufacturers are reducing the capacity of their engines and still making more power out of them, Holden seems to be increasing the size to achieve the same.... all about costs... and I'm sure the amount of R&D that goes into a LS2 is no where near alot of other smaller V8s.
Some manufacturers have gone to turbo or supercharging, these technologies are basically similar to increasing displacement i.e. more psi = more fuel. The problem with this is lag, something the bigger displacement doesnt suffer as much.
Have a look at some of the most powerful modded cars, many are skylines and cars using LSx engines (vette, camaro, TA, any holdens). Both these engines are one of the best, skylines for 6s and LS for 8s.
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Originally Posted by monaroCountry
Well, I know these engines can make big power
But really... they are sh!t...
Pushrods? Geez we are in the 21st century!
Not only that, but poor head design, piston/conrod design, crank and how it is bolted is all inferior to anything else in the world more or less.
And do not tell me you haven't seen a new holden on the side of the road with it's bonnet up. Because I certainly have on numerous occassions.
They are simply unreliable, unsophisticated, primitive engines.
A friend had a fully worked, built supercharged 5.7L ute, and it still made less kw per litre than my car... when it wasn't even working properly with a stock engine! Fair enough he was only running 6psi and had pulley's for 12+ but this is an engine with about 30K spent on it