Honda's with / without swaybars

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Originally Posted by wynode

Need to tell us more. Ie is it a track car or daily driver.

You also need to look at your front sway bar as 'bigger isn't always better'. 27mm bar will also put a lot of stress on your sub frame if you don't reinforce it properly. So there's no quick answer :)

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cheers for the response

the car is my daily, but i love giving it a squirt on the twisties on the weekend, so essentially a good amount of handling in that respect is what i'm after.

I have a front and rear strut tower bar, and am keeping the front sway bar stock. The rear I am tossing up between 24mm or 27mm (27mm is the same price?!) and just curious as to what would be better, especially given they are the same price and as you said bigger isnt always better!

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Originally Posted by hiru

dc2 rear sway bar stock is 14mm?

so (and i'm sorry if this is the wrong place, didnt want to make a whole thread about it) am i better off getting a 24mm rear sway or a 27mm. is 27mm just overkill?

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I would go for the 24mm bar not the 27mm.

What you need to realise is that swaybars, along with springs, dampers, alignment and a myriad of other factors, are generally used as a handling tuning tool to obtain a faster setup on track. Since you shouldn't be driving even close to track pace on the street then the fastest setup shouldn't be the goal, instead the goal should be to create a car that is both fun to drive and safe.

With this in mind I wouldn't go for the 27mm bar simply because it will significantly increase the rear roll stiffness and make the car more likely to punt you off the road backwards at speed. Which will probably ruin your day. Honestly a JDM DC2R bar would probably do the job.

what you said is spot on about what i want to achieve mate! unfortunately dont have the moolah for a dc2r audm or jdm lol. i'll go for the 24mm then.

i'm not so much going for lap times as i am handling ability. and your comment about getting punted off the road backwards was in fact one of my concerns! i hit an oil patch in the wet around a bend a month or two back and nearly did that! i think my eagle f1's on the front saved me there lol

chargeR makes a good point about the 27mm bar there. So for your application the 24mm is probably the best. Gluck!

Swaybars IMO are the best bang for buck handling mod.

I use a 26 mm with an extra (softer) adjustment hole.

Cheers
Gary

Apples to oranges though, you've got a DC5 yeah?

cheers.. yeah looks like he has a dc5 and i'm after one for a dc2. got a pretty good offer on a mfactory one, but its 19mm. whats the general opinion? in comparison to a 24mm that is. noticible difference? for a daily with a bit of twisties fun... the price difference is about $50-%60. the 24mm one is whiteline...

okay bumpin this up and looks like its decision time. goin the whiteline for sure, 3pt adjustable. couple of questions:
1. 18mm, 20mm and 22mm are my options. for a daily and a bit of twisties action on the side, what would you recommend;
2. how strong is the dc2 rear subframe and;
3. do i need to get a tie bar to go with this?;

cheers guys. again i was going to make a thread, but i thought this might be better. the price difference between the three sizes is negligible, so that's not an issue.

22mm is the most ideal to reduce your body roll, so I'd go with that. The subframe would more than likely tear down the track if you don't use a sub frame reinforcement kit such as ASR, Beaks or something like that. An ASR will act like a tie bar also so you wouldn't need that.

cool, cheers for the info. forgive the noob quesion, but what is an ASR? or is that a brand like beaks? In which case isnt it just a tie bar?

An ASR is a brace that sits on your subframe holding your sway bar and spreading its load out. You can find the kits at traders on Ozhonda Such as JDMyard or through ebay. The beaks I was talking about wasn't the tie bar it was the subframe reinforcement kit. Though the ASR/Whiteline kits are more preferrable as they are one piece. The beaks I was talking about is this:

http://www.beaksproducts.com/SRK_EG_...nforcement.htm

Hope that helped.

Here's what an ASR looks like.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2649/...2931d76737.jpg

That's also got Beaks Tie bar attached, which is useless in this case because it is already using an ASR. It is just there for appearance.

hmm ok interesting. really appreciate the advice mate. so just to clarify, ASR is in effect a brand right? I had a look on the whiteline site and couldn't find a similar part. any help would be really appreciated - if you could link us to the part on the whiteline site that would be awesome!