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Originally Posted by yfin
my dad owns a euro...i drive it 4-5 times a week....
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Originally Posted by yfin
my dad owns a euro...i drive it 4-5 times a week....
And you have tested the car with BP Ultimate and noticed nothing different?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_will
when he first got it, and during the run in period it ran on 95, its done about 9000 (he only drives it to/from work) now and ive put it through 95 to empty, then 98 till empty etc etc 3 times and i can confidently say that it only furthers my previous assertions on the topic. :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by yfin
but that being said at the end of the day, if putting 98 in your car makes you feel better, do it, but youre basically ignoring the technical facts which prove that because higher RON fuel burns more slowly you are delaying peak cylinder pressure and without advanced timing causing a loss of power
The APEXI RSM with G sensor records consistently faster in gear times with 98 ron fuel on the same road, same temp. So no launch issues to stuff times - ingear. That is a better test than your theories.
If your response is the rsm is inaccurate, what were the test conditions, air temp, fuel load - etc. Don't bother. You are not interested in anything other than your "technical facts" (which BP says is wrong) so why should I bother.
Guys,
Have been following the debate - too techincal for me.
For my part I have alternated betwen 95 and 98 (over two years on a weekly basis) and noticed no improvement in economy when using 98. however, the Euro seems to go better when using 98 - especially going up hills. I drive a stock standard Euro (no mods) and it is serviced by the dealer (so presumably no frills standard factory setting tuning).
I notice that Shell has introduced an Optimax 100 (contains ethanol).
Has anyone tried it? Is it safe for use in the Euro?
Honda has issued a statement that the Euro can handle up to 10% of ethanol. Optimax 100 has 5% so it should be alright. But I'm still not going near the stuff. Especially since it is more expensive while independent stations are able to offer ethanol blend 98 at lower than 95 prices!
handle with no adverse consequences in terms of engine life, performance, fuel economy etc?Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
That is the question. All Honda said was that the vehicles would operate satisfactorily. How long the seals would last, nothing was mentioned. I'd guess that 10% would be alright for quite a few years as most manufacturers try to build their car/engine to accomodate as many conditions/fuel as possible. But for me, I'm keeping my car for the long term, so I won't be using any ethanol blends yet. In the future if ethanol blends become mandatory, at least I would have tried my best in minimising exposure to ethanol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_will
If there was some form of benefit for me to try Optimax Extreme, then I might give it a go. But for my car, 100 octane is no different over 98 octane, the detergents used in 98 octane here is quite sufficient and 98 octane is still cheaper. If they offerred the ethanol blend at the same price as 98 or cheaper, that would be more enticing. :)
MELBOURNE CREW...
Does anyone know anything about that fuel "Boost 98" that's available from that service station on Kings Way in Melbourne? (The one with the Hungry Jacks)...
i can felt the different of optimax and 91 regular even my friend didn't didn't told me his wife put the wrong fuel, until i asked...91 regular put into honda Euro can be desribed as "wild bow tighted with string", you can felt loss power very obvious.
91 octane in the Euro is a no-no. I hope your friend had put in 98 octane as soon as he could to increase the octane of the fuel in the tank of his Euro.
I have no clue why anyone would even consider using 91 octane unleaded when the sticker on the car clearly says to use 95 octane AT MINIMUM.