97 Vti-R vs The new Corolla Sportivo

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Originally Posted by MR-VTEC

just a question Sportivo VVTL-i how can you seriously tell me you stuck with a wrx a 4wd turbo. the power higher up in the speed stakes would kill a 2 litre na car im sure. please someone correct me if im wrong. must be one of these crap drivers again or he must've had his air-con on full ball.lol.

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far out guys.

Can we not have an aggressive argument FOR ONCE?!

McChook, can you try hard not piss someone off on the forums?

I don't know about you guys, but the two corolla guys came in here in a non aggressive manner to join the discussion on their cars, they are just speaking about their experiences...

I know this is a honda forum and all, but Honda's are not bulletproof, and the fact is, there WILL be plenty of faster cars out there. (a general comment, not directed at corollas specifically)
They are only talking about their experiences, and as I said many times before, street drags mean very little due to the large variances in tune and driver ability!

MR VTEC, what makes you think a highly strung FWD 2L NA car can't keep up with a WRX? you *know* it won't or you just *think* it wont?

Faster acceleration is ultimately about power.... a lightweight 2L FWD NA car with about 150kw at the fly should have no problems keeping up with (or even beating) a Stock WRX.

Don't forget that the WRX isn't all that fast when it gets moving, they are only fast at launch cos of their 4WD system and ability to grip with high RPM clutch dumping.
In addition, the 4WD drivetrain has a lot of power loss associated. Its possible that the corolla might even be putting more power to the ground... I'm talking about a stock WRX tho.

so.... before this discussion gets messy can we all kiss and make up?? :)

:P

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Originally Posted by justinfox

200km/hr on public roads? Um, what happens if some idiot walks out onto the street without first looking for traffic? (as people always do in Sydney).

You guys really should keep it to the track! That's where the fun is really to be had. The long straight on Eastern Creek is almost 1km long and gives you plenty of time to see who's the fastest :)

And I have had countless people try to race me off the lights in my GT-R. Anything from other turbo owners to Honda Civics. I rev up, look at them and grin then let them beat me every time. Why? Cause it's just not worth it! I get the last laugh. I like it that way! :)

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Nice photos!!

I love your website too!

200km/h?! you didn't happen to get pulled over on the M5 last night did ya?!
haha

far out man. I REALLY hope that you don't kill yourself or worse still kill someone else one day.
and I sure hope I'm no where near you when you pull those crazy stunts like that. I've been in far too many near misses cos drivers/bike riders think they have big balls.

take it to the track, its safer.

I've actually sent an email to the people at the creek to get some details about track time. As yeah i recognise doing this on the roads is dangerous and very stupid but we all get the hype every now and then and i dont think any1 can deny that.

kit maybe you should read all my posts under this topic before you go accusing me of arguing!

and as for my stint about the wrx i let that go!

read first before you go accusing me!

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Originally Posted by MR-VTEC

kit maybe you should read all my posts under this topic before you go accusing me of arguing!

and as for my stint about the wrx i let that go!

read first before you go accusing me!

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Its cool... the wrx comment was directed at you, the other comment about this getting aggressive wasnt.
I can just see this getting very messy.
:)

ok no probs.

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Originally Posted by Sportivo VVTL-i

ah! the DC5R. ah, i get it.

so, the DC5 is the non type-r, right?

my friend has a vti-r coupe (nice car!) and we always drag when we can. every time we've raced, i've won.

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i'll pay that............

if u wanna beat a corolla sportivo
just take one on on the tracks
im pretty sure the ek4 can easily outcorner the sportivo

i was choosing to get a sportivo or an ek4 last year
now my mind is made up
just have 2 find one now.....
2nd hand ek4 anyone?

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Originally Posted by gelo

if u wanna beat a corolla sportivo
just take one on on the tracks
im pretty sure the ek4 can easily outcorner the sportivo

i was choosing to get a sportivo or an ek4 last year
now my mind is made up
just have 2 find one now.....
2nd hand ek4 anyone?

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you might find yourself mistaken there.

a good friend of mine was lapping his (stock) corolla levin -yes the 100kw version- station wagon consistanly as quick as his previous (stock) civic vti-r hatch. despite the civic being quicker on the straights.
i can only assume that he'd be quicker again in a sportivo...

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Originally Posted by Sportivo VVTL-i

MR-VTEC: u from sydney? did u go to the ozhonda meet last friday? it was at auburn maccas. i was there with the stivo. =)

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you were?...........huh..........what colour car?...............

what type of skylines we talkin bout cause stock rexies eat stock 33 and 32 GTSTs. so if the rolla will stay with a wrx it will prolly be right next to the skyline. it all goes down to driver skill though cause i have been in a sotck liberty RS turbo (pretty much older model rex) that has eaten a rolla and yes he was goin as he chirped it off the line.