Wat is up with this site now??

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Originally Posted by - MAR10 -

once again u speak of my opinion to be 'provocative'. if ur speaking on behalf of your fellow 'mods', you would be called a hypocrite. I think rather than trying to answer what everyone is complaining about, perhaps you should DO something about it. I find it disgusting how you cannot accept one's opinion, isn't that what the forums are all about?



doesnt matter when i signed up??? I still have an opinion no matter how long I have been a member of this forum???


what a joke...

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I see. So it would be completly acceptable to say sign up to OzAccord, spend 10 seconds looking at posts and determine that the site is a waste of time. I think most would agree that that is 'provocative' - "that is a joke".

As I have claimed throughout this thread, if you have a SERIOUS issue, then raise the issue and suggest an appropriate way to deal with it. I completly accept your opinion (as I do with other members) however jumping on a thread with no other posts on a forum and having signed up just a day ago does raise questions of your stance.

That amazes me.

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Originally Posted by - MAR10 -

doesnt matter when i signed up??? I still have an opinion no matter how long I have been a member of this forum???

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well when you just signed up, only have 3 posts, all of them flaming ozhonda then YES

same goes for sukmeidik.

i have banned both users for obvious reasons. any issues with that PM me :wave:
it's time for you all to chill the f*ck out. the issue with jinrai is being delt with so there is no need to continue flaming him or other mods

move on, post responsibly and there shouldnt be any problems should there? :)

group hug everyone

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Originally Posted by Zdster

I see. So it would be completly acceptable to say sign up to OzAccord, spend 10 seconds looking at posts and determine that the site is a waste of time. I think most would agree that that is 'provocative' - "that is a joke".

As I have claimed throughout this thread, if you have a SERIOUS issue, then raise the issue and suggest an appropriate way to deal with it. I completly accept your opinion (as I do with other members) however jumping on a thread with no other posts on a forum and having signed up just a day ago does raise questions of your stance.

That amazes me.

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How do u know ive spent 10 seconds looking at posts? FYI i've been keeping a close view on this website for a while now, just havnt had the need to post... until now.

And yes, if you felt u wanted to say something in another forum, even it being your first post, why shudnt u be allowed to?

And FYI, I never labelled this site as a waste of time, I just felt it was disrespectful to attack me because I agreed with somebody else's opinion. Why blow things out of proportion for?

ffs. he didnt attack you. he quoted that "suckme dick guy's" post.

if ozhonda had no lounge, then the traffic at this site would decrease by 90%
the only ppl that would use ozhonda would be the ppl that wanna learn a few things about honda's and find/give/ask for help.

Without the social interaction provided through web forums, then you may as well have a searchable database with articals, case studies and technical information on honda.

Like when a noob posts a question and gets flamed becuase he could of just searched. But if someone just quickley send him in the correct direction thats all that is needed, asking questions and getting answers is the basis of trust and what builds friendships.

Maybe a noob is looking for more than just technical help, but also for people he can trust and socialise with who have simular interests, something that isn't possible through a searchable database.

I dunno, I geuss what im trying to say is that JINRAR is a hypocrit and VTEC_JET wishes he was a mod.

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Originally Posted by Zdster

As I stated earlier, as a community we are all happy to hear CONSTRUCTIVE criticism that can be acted upon for the benefit of the community.

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Constructive criticism

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Constructive criticism is the process of offering valid and well-reasoned opinions about the work of others, usually involving both positive and negative comments, in a friendly manner rather than an oppositional one. In collaborative work, this kind of criticism is often a valuable tool in raising and maintaining performance standards.

Because of the overuse of negative, nagging criticism, some people become defensive even when receiving constructive criticism given in a spirit of good will. Constructive criticism is more likely to be accepted if the criticism is focused on the recipient's work or behavior. That is, personality issues must be avoided as much as is possible. Critical thinking can help identify relevant issues to focus on.

Especially sensitive individuals may adopt a passive, defeated attitude if they view a situation as personal, pervasive, or permanent (see learned helplessness). Others may adopt an aggressive response. In an online forum lacking face-to-face contact, constructive criticism can be easily misinterpreted and online exchanges often spiral out of control, becoming flamewars. Effective interpersonal communication skills can be helpful to assess the recipient's frame of mind. During initial exchanges or when encountering defensive individuals, effective criticism calls for softer language and inclusion of positive comments. When the recipient strongly identifies with contentious areas (such as politics or religion), non-offensive criticism becomes challenging.

On the other hand, stronger language can sometimes break through a defensive shell. Further, many people (both as providers and even recipients of criticism) appreciate a blunt style. They see bluntness as honest and efficient while viewing softer approaches as manipulative, condescending, tedious, or confining. Often, such people view stronger exchanges as lively and engaging.

Adopting the most effective style of criticism should be tempered by the cultural context, the recipient's personality, and nature of the relationship between provider and recipient. To assess a situation, one should put out exploratory feelers and initially adopt a perceptive rather than judgmental attitude; conflict resolution skills can be helpful.

As a recipient of criticism, one can benefit by focusing on the constructive elements of the criticism and by attributing charitable interpretations to those who use strong language. By adopting an open attitude to criticism, one can achieve greater personal growth and help uncover blind spots. Alternatively, such openness may be subjected to ridicule especially in a cynical or honor-based culture.

So how is banning people for offering "Constructive Criticism" beneficial for this community.
They were expressing their "Bluntness" with "Stronger language" which is within the criteria of Constructive Criticism, which you say you welcome.???

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Originally Posted by dark138

it doesn't matter whether one person was stirred by another. In a court of law, if you killed someone because they "provoked" you doesn't mean you will get a lesser sentence. (you only get a lesser sentence because you had a good lawyer).

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Not really worth mentioning - but I think you will find this is incorrect (ie that provocation is irrelevant in a murder trial). Provocation is a relevant sentencing consideration and in some states it can be a partial defence to a murder charge.

Back to this thread - I can't believe we have people from ozaccord signing up and spamming this thread and site now. That is so pathetic - especially when they attempt to claim the high moral ground on one hand - then try and ruin the site for everyone else. Valid concerns are always welcome - trying to incite people on other forums to sign up and spam this site is not.

If you are not happy with this site you can leave. It is as simple as that. Don't ruin it for people who want to stay.

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Originally Posted by yfin

That is so pathetic - especially when they attempt to claim the high moral ground on one hand - then try and ruin the site for everyone else. Valid concerns are always welcome - trying to incite people on other forums to sign up and spam this site is not.

If you are not happy with this site you can leave. It is as simple as that. Don't ruin it for people who want to stay.

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Mate, that is the exact attitude that is ruining it here.
"If you don't do it our way you can leave"
Since when did Wyn die and leave the monkey's in charge of the Banana Farm.
From what I've seen some of the lesser Mods here are doing a perfect job at ruining it themselves by having this Nazi Attitude, and that's the WHOLE POINT to this thread.
Maybe it's time Wyn cleaned out the Mod closet???
This is a thread on "Site Discussion". What's Good for it, What's Bad for it.
You can't have one set of rules for members and another set of rules for the Mods.
The two spammers have been banned for expressing Free Speech within the confines of Constructive Criticism and also sticking up for an initial OZHONDA member, who invited them here.
Remember who prompted all this, I don't see the Mod being banned.
I suppose you are going to assert your "authority" again and I'm going to get banned because I had the balls to speak out against you.
Mate, being a pill won't gain respect.

BTW: Everyone is Welcome to come over to OZACCORD and have an open opinion without fear of banning.

So what happened to Jinrai???

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Originally Posted by GEN46L

Mate, that is the exact attitude that is ruining it here.
"If you don't do it our way you can leave"
Since when did Wyn die and leave the monkey's in charge of the Banana Farm.
From what I've seen some of the lesser Mods here are doing a perfect job at ruining it themselves by having this Nazi Attitude, and that's the WHOLE POINT to this thread.
Maybe it's time Wyn cleaned out the Mod closet???
This is a thread on "Site Discussion". What's Good for it, What's Bad for it.
You can't have one set of rules for members and another set of rules for the Mods.
The two spammers have been banned for expressing Free Speech within the confines of Constructive Criticism and also sticking up for an initial OZHONDA member, who invited them here.
Remember who prompted all this, I don't see the Mod being banned.
I suppose you are going to assert your "authority" again and I'm going to get banned because I had the balls to speak out against you.
Mate, being a pill won't gain respect.

BTW: Everyone is Welcome to come over to OZACCORD and have an open opinion without fear of banning.

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There is no such thing as "free speech" in Australia. There is also no such thing as "free speech" on Ozhonda. There are rules that need to be followed. If you guys want to run ozaccord with no rules and "free speech" - that is great for you. Lets see how you go when you have 9000+ members (vs 66 members) all speaking at once.

I also don't need your respect. The 9 posts you have made on Ozhonda give me enough indication of your true colours - to do your best to ruin this site and promote another.

So are you sukmeidik (strange how you have the same IP address unique to only you and sukmedik) - and the mod F22-GURU on ozaccord? Isn't this what you said on ozaccord? F22-Guru sounds strangely so much like you (and F22-Guru confirmed he is sukmeidik):

link

It is also a remarkable coincidence that the moderator on Ozaccord - F22-Guru and you - Gen46L - share exactly the same birthday August 9, 1963.

Perhaps you might have "the balls" (to use your vernacular) to honestly confirm or deny it is you. Sounds like your "recruitment" drive has started - as you put in that ozaccord thread.

A true man like Geoff (F22-Guru) would disclose any vested interests don't you think before posting in this thread? You are here to recruit members for your forum. End of story. So disclose your interests before flaming this site further.

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Originally Posted by yfin

There is no such thing as "free speech" in Australia. There is also no such thing as "free speech" on Ozhonda. There are rules that need to be followed. If you guys want to run ozaccord with no rules and "free speech" - that is great for you. Lets see how you go when you have 9000+ members all speaking at once.

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And that's exactly why I'm on the recruitment drive. To let people know there is a site where there is Free Speech. Of course there are rules to be followed but why enforce them like a bunch of power tripping Nazi's. The way you Mod this site we eventually will have 9000+ members - All banned from here. ;)

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Originally Posted by yfin

I also don't need your respect. The 9 posts you have made on Ozhonda give me enough indication of your true colours - to do your best to ruin this site and promote another.

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Who needs the respect of a weak prick like you anyway. You should have worked out my true colours after 1 Post. This joint don't need me to ruin it, Mods with your piss-ant attitude are doing just fine.:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by yfin

So are you sukmeidik (recently banned with the same IP address as you) - and F22-GURU on ozaccord? Isn't this what you said on ozaccord? F22-Guru sounds strangely so much like you:.

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Well yes F22-GURU, SUKMEIDIK, GEN46L all the same person.
Geez, How much brain power did it take for you to work that out, Anyone with half a brain would have worked that out after the first post considering I actually said I was signing in as SUKMEIDIK in the Link to this thread with the purpose of showing what a bunch Nazi's you are. :confused:
And I achieved what I set out to do.

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Originally Posted by yfin

Perhaps you might have "the balls" (to use your vernacular) to honestly confirm or deny it is you. Sounds like F22-Guru's "recruitment" drive has started - as put in that thread. A true man like F22-Guru would disclose any vested interests don't you think before posting in this thread?

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Considering you weak arse bastards banned SUKMEIDIK I went to my next option, signing in as GEN46L as that was my original user-name here at OZHonda. Like I said there's plenty of ways around it. So now you can show your True Colours and ban GEN46L and the IP Address as well. But I will get around that too.:cool:

Give Up, You're out of your depth. You see by the time you delete this it will be up at OZAccord for all to laugh at.

Cheers
The GURU

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Originally Posted by GEN46L

Give Up, You're out of your depth. You see by the time you delete this it will be up at OZAccord for all to laugh at.

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Interesting . . . .

"From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In Internet terminology, a troll is someone who comes into an established community such as an online discussion forum, and posts inflammatory, rude or offensive messages designed to annoy and antagonize the existing members or disrupt the flow of discussion (see Anonymous Internet posting)."