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Originally Posted by Spoon-Accord
barefootbonzai has a very nice car although i reckon the 18s are WAY too big :p
just wondering what kind of 1/4mile would the b16 coupe run.
most if not all the corolla sportivos that i've watched at willowbank run mid to low 15s
The gear ratio is not good in the rolla spotivo and celica.Quote:
Originally Posted by barefootbonzai
20 value AE111 6 speed will give civics a run for the money
but not alot of ppl in Asia like to race it as it seems to be abit fragile.
Honda built Type R are built like a race car, so most cars in the same category are no match for it. Is even faster then the RX8 around the tracks.
what he said:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Savant
What are you confused about in regards to VTEC?Quote:
Originally Posted by Savant
You can read this about VTEC (more reading in the links) if you want to know the basics. If you want more detail, simply reply to that thread.
hey whooaaa that is alot of reading to do..!!
im just saying something so v-tec is much better than a vvt-i an better technology?? right
your right there JDM.Power..
Honda spent more time researching into the engines..
especially they made their first VTEC engine like 10-15 years ago..
toyota only started making their version of "VTEC" like 4-5 years ago(just estimating)
think cause they got round selling alot more camrys.. and invested on making their engines diffrent for a change..
anywho's
my 2 cents
Ken
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Originally Posted by barefootbonzai
I had a Corolla Sportivo before I got the Honda. Mine had 10K spent on it ..Unichipped, Lightened Flywheel, CAI amongst many other things. They are very quick little car for what they are. But they need modding to really perform. They had a ECU recall last year cos they were running under powered, after the recall was much better. Don't under estimate them I have blown some very modified looking Honda Civics and also Integras. only trouble is they don't really start to perform before 6200 Rpm then they go pretty hard. But also there is a lot of Hondas that would blow them away as well..I know so don't start hammering me... I know alot about these cars and what they are capable of . When I had it I totally enjoyed it. Remember they are only a 29K Car + on roads for what they cost I think they are not bad value for a Low price performance car.
The Guy who was driving his Sportivo in your comment above probably did not know how to drive his car. They do have issues with the Gearbox they have shitty Gear Change and it is difficult to change at times. And it takes some skill to keep it in lift whilst changing gears.
But overall now I have the Honda ..quality is far superior.
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Originally Posted by Peekay34
i feel yah dawg!!
yeah have to admit the Honda's gbox is alot closer and easier to shift compared to the corollas. Yeah the "Blacktop 20v" would give most type rs a run for its money. BUt it only comes with optional LSD and optional 6 speed so they are rare to come by, especially when they are only released in Japan and are usually kept as track cars over there. I've only known of 2 in Aus. You do know they have a Forumla 1 atlantic which races the Spoon engines in the US.
Wynde - Don't know about the lift in the BMW i got those specs from a website. Not all that informed with BMs. But i do know the Toyota system has a lift as well. Similar to the vtec design.
One thing i noted though the Toyotas don't seem to take as much fuel while high revving
Vtec kicks ass and would beat the corolla
the best thing to do is get the two cars together and give it a run
and record it and then post it up. so every1 can see.
around the track the civic would kill it as the civics chassis would built good.
what about vanos or variocam?
It's not a matter of whether VTEC or VVTi or VVTLi or (Double) VANOS or Variocam (Plus) is better. Each of them allow you to tune the engine to produce torque at a higher peak while still producing torque at the lower revs, or a wider spread of torque, while maintaining a sufficient amount at high revs.
They are just a means to an end. And in the end, which is more powerful depends on how aggressive the cams are in the engine, the compression ratio and whether it has been lightened, balanced and polished from the factory.
I think the only way to determine which system is better is based on its reliability and how quick and seamless the system can switch between cam profiles and/or timings.