s2000 vs Evo6 vs Sti

Strong Point WhiteAP1, I didn't mention the S2K did I in the match up...

Cause from what I've experience in the EVOs and STis (unfortunately I can't say anything on the S2K cause I've not been in one just heard good and bad stuff about it), they corner like crazy! Is there something I'm not getting right?

Yeah, the EVO and WRX can't escape their cooktop heritage. The S2K is really unique in that sense, a one off like you mentioned. However I think on the Touge that the S2K will still get its head handed to it. I mean it maybe the worlds most powerful 2L but hell... the turbo 2L AWD is so irresitible, the acceleration crazy!

I think if its amongst average drivers, its a duel between the AWDs no prob, if it was pros however, the S2K will be in the thick of it. Sounds good?

I agree with DreadAngel, I've been lucky enough to able to get to drive both the S2000 and Evo 6. Me being an average driver, I would say the Evo would slaughter the S2000 in pretty much any given road, but for the pros, the outcomes may be different. But you have to also remember that driving the Evo and the Sti fast is not that hard thx to the ample grip levels and the torque levels compared to the S2000.

Depends on the track/road conditions, drivers, alignment of the planets... etc etc.

Touge is different from Circuit.

On the downhill touge, straight line speed isn't too important. It is all about chassie balance, handling, and most importantly light weight. EVO is probably known as the best cornering machine in the world not for nothing, but on a touge it is not agile enough. Stock vs stock EVO will still kill an S2000 mind u, but if they're modded to suit this type of downhill run, the S2000 should have an edge due to its lower weight and good balance.

On the circuit, most of them anyway, horsepower is very important. The EVO/STIs are much faster than the S2000. They can't even compare. The EVO's and STIs might be based on the basic models, but their chassis have been spot welded in hundreds of places and reinforcements are installed. That means, in reality they're really strong chassis of which the S2000's open top, despite its X-frame, cannot compete with.

S2000 costs too much IMO. Its 176KW also isn't overly attractive for normal use with a relatively lack of torque anywhere. You can make cars make a lot of high rpm power by setting them up that way, but the successful cars will have adequate torque down low, as well as good high end power. Aust should get the 2.2L S2000 engine instead!

Honda Australia made the mistake of getting the new model but with the old engine, shame really, I think Honda Australia was banking a lot on the fact that its the world most powerful 2L car. My cousin was looking for a luxury + performance car, I mentioned the S2000 but all he managed to say was "Its the world's most powerful 2L for $*******.... not worth it next... Subaru Liberty...* If the price tag was around the RX-8/350Z mark it would be selling better!

I wish there was a Hard Top version of the S2000, seriously it deserves it, no offence to those that like the soft top but I find it looks even better and safer obviously with a GT Hard Top!

Ah! if your talking agility, then yes I'd agree the S2000 does have the edge

Oh now that you mentioned it, apparently the RX-8 is a really good cornering machine as well.. u can control its understeer or oversteer or whatever u chuck at it!

Like the S2000, its lacking torque - so u have to be in the right gear! But anyway, I don't mind having one at all.. afterall, it looks like sex on wheels! GT Hard Top version will be nice - want some protection if it flips over hahaha!

Yeah, advantages of having a Rotary Engine and feather weight car... reaps on the downhil + uphill + circuit + anywhere on the ground!

Comparing the prices, its obvious the S2000 is way outta line man, New Car Price indicated on website:

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Honda

S2000 - $72,590 (manual only)

Mitshubishi

Lancer Evolution IX - $56,789

Subaru

Impreza WRX STi - $56,990

Mazda

RX-8 - $54,565 (manual) $55,365 (auto)
RX-8 with Leather Pack -$60,200 (manual) $61,000 (auto)

Nissan

Z33 Touring Manual - $62,990
Z33 Track Manual - $67,990
Z33 Roadster Touring Auto - $73,990
Z33 Roadster Track Manual $73,990

Lexus

IS250
2.5L 6cyl Prestige Man Trans $53890*
2.5L 6cyl Prestige Auto Trans $56490*
2.5L 6cyl Sports Man Trans $67400*
2.5L 6cyl Sports Auto Trans $70000*
2.5L 6cyl Sports Luxury Auto Trans $78500*
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I'm not sure what cars you guys would be comparing the S2K with but I think for me these cars are close to the S2K's market.

On to topic again, has anyone driven or been in the S2K, Evo IX and the WRX STi? Give us your opinion!

don't insult the S2K.. if anything that i have learned from watching initial D, its not all abt power! but i think it might depend on which actual track they race on! in the end, its too hard to compare as too many varying factors come into it! :)

Lol, I didn't insult the S2K, the fact I'm proud of Honda's achievement with the S2K means I'm a fan of it! The price tag that comes with the S2K is a very pretty one, too pretty for most!

I didn't say its all about power either, power doesn't have anything to do with it to be honest...

As for reference to Inital D, I'm hoping your not serious, unless your a god like downhill technician, you don't win in the AE86!

Like you said, need the real thing, bring us the EVO, STi and a S2K then close a Touge somewhere and test the theory LMFAO... jkjk!

DreadAngel, i wasnt taking a stab at u bruz.. was speaking in general terms! ehehe to get the most accurate and precise results u'd haf2 test stock for stock, within a completely controlled environment, over several runs. but does it really matter which car is faster? they're all good cars in their own right.. S2K vs LANCER GLi VS IMPREZA RX.. carn the S2K!! bwuahaha :p
increase the peace!

WTF? GLi and RX vs S2K LMFAO!!!

H Power Slaughter, actually anything Honda slaughters those 2 bwahahaha!

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Originally Posted by [[d a n n y]]

down the hill the 4wd power train cars will alwayz suffer understeer. cuz of it's 4 paws

downhill race is not a power race....
the winner will b decided by how well balanced each car is.
S2k is a 50/50 weight distributed car just like the MR2 and the NSX. and ligher than the EVo and the STi.

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i reckon dannys on the money.