http://www.honda.co.uk/cars/newcars/...tionType=equip
why Oz spec Jazzs have drums but UK spec have discs? because they don't have the 15 vtec? but that isn't a nice answer! :thumbdwn:
they even have EBD as standard!
http://www.honda.co.uk/cars/newcars/...tionType=equip
why Oz spec Jazzs have drums but UK spec have discs? because they don't have the 15 vtec? but that isn't a nice answer! :thumbdwn:
they even have EBD as standard!
3 words .... honda australia suck
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Originally Posted by spoon fit
AGREED !!!
We always get the crap...
Since we are all in Australia, we have no choice :(
I really want to be a Japanese :D
wat if u r a jap that lives in aust... u get PWNED even harderQuote:
Originally Posted by loo
i suppose it's because UK always have those wet and slippy condition which therefore needs better brakes than Oz condition! Consider that Oz's Jazz isn't exactly in the cheap range for a small car and yet they didn't have rear disc brake! That just sucks!
Sorry, I'm gonna have to disagree here.
Firstly, the UK doesn't even get the 1.5L VTEC model. If its a choice between that or rear discs, I know which I'd prefer. I'm sure the 1.2L/1.3L/1.4L versions make fine little cars, but there's not much chance I would have bought a Jazz at all if that was all we got here.
Secondly, apart from the looks, what is wrong with the rear drums? The stopping power of the jazz is great compared to other cars, there is still enough power to lock up the rears with the handbrake, and in the rain I still get enough rear braking power to have ABS kick in. I've tested it on the track (Wakefield) as well in reaching this conclusion.
The front brakes do the bulk of the stopping power in the jazz because of the weight transfer when you hit them hard, plus most of the car's weight is already towards the front of the car.
IMO the only reasons you'd want rear discs is if (a) you lowered your car and stiffen the springs and don't get as much weight transfer, or (b) you want the rear to look more impressive because your rims have great big space around them.
- Andrew
Hmm... only if you hit it hard??? Don't often hit it hard for normal city driving.. When normal braking for a traffic lights or junction, sometimes feel like the car doesn't want to stop... I am not sure if the rear-disc brake is going to help in this case... thumbsup:
I know what you mean, sometimes it is not a linear feel and you have to press fairly hard to get a reasonable stopping distance. I don't think rear discs would help there but perhaps it is an issue of adjustment for the pedal travel. But if you slam the brakes on at 100km/h or faster, I think the jazz shaves off speed pretty well!Quote:
Originally Posted by ahcash
- Andrew
I agree with Andys. Drum brakes are not as bad as you might think. The only problem with the stock drum brake design is the drum shoe material is not design to work at high temperature. Just swap the drum shoes with aftermarket high temperature replacements and you'll be fine.
Spoon uses drum brakes for their endurance race car, they have special heat sinks made for the brake enclosure and their car can race 24 hours non-stop.
Also, most of the braking is done by the front brakes anyway. Rear brakes are there to balance the car.
important for a wel balance carQuote:
Originally Posted by Tony
sometimes when i do a normal brake, my things and my gf dools drop on the mat which is kind of annoying.